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Engine Paint Question ??? #3059400
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Hey Guys, were the alternator " Bolts and Brackets " painted black or engine color? I do see a little of the orange on a few of the bolt heads. this is for ' 70 340 T/A engine. Thanks, Kevin

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painted black brackets,
Black phosphate bolts and spacers

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The engine plant built and painted the engines without accessories such as alternators and brackets. After the engines arrived at the car assembly plant, various different alternators that were available as options were bolted on using 2 existing water pump bolts. Brackets were hung on hooks or wires and dip painted with black enamel, and as a result had runs that could be discerned on close inspection.

These photos are 1969 340s with different water pumps than 1970, but they do correctly show the 2 water pump bolt heads with engine paint.

1969 340 water pump.JPG1969 340 water pump1.JPG1969 340 water pump2.JPG1969 340.JPG

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AFAIK the temperature sending unit, heater hose nozzles, and hose clamps should have been painted with engine paint in the last photo above.

1969 340 date code on temp gauge.JPG

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You might want to mask the threads where the terminal goes on, Just saying.

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Thank You !! that pretty much verifys what I thought . Any thoughts about the fuel pump ? Thanks , Kevin

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Would look to Scott Smith for the correct answer to your question. Small Blocks were done different than Big Blocks. That painted engine above is close but no cigar.
Ron

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I would think they would be installed, If not they would have to mask it prior to paint and remove it when installing it and that would take longer.

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Originally Posted by B5TA
Thank You !! that pretty much verifys what I thought . Any thoughts about the fuel pump ? Thanks , Kevin


On a small block the fuel pump was installed after paint also the negative battery cable and bolt were unpainted along with wire holders.
Ron

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They painted bypass hose completely on small blocks?

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Yes By pass and clamps were painted.
Ron

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Originally Posted by RJS
Would look to Scott Smith for the correct answer to your question. Small Blocks were done different than Big Blocks. That painted engine above is close but no cigar.
Ron

After much searching it seems I want the P4120752 turquiose, but is there a consensus on which VHT or Duplicolor numbers?
No one googled has any posts on the 1971 413-1 Hi-Perf truck motors

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Blast from the past with plenty of good pictures. Click on them to download.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread.../1971-340-cuda-engine-paint-details.html

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Most of the hi perf car engines were orange, but these year trucks were all turquoise, not the later Chrysler blue either.
The JY 72 below seems like the covers were repainted with the later bluer color.

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Relying to myself:

I got the VHT SP126 and it matches the intake etc especially after hard cleaning for new paint.

After power cleaning the bottom though I started spraying and noticed that the pan and block were black on top of base metal. I can imagine the pan dropped and painted, but the block seems odd since it was a neglected RV with only 60k miles.
It's all turquoise now.

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Originally Posted by Ray S

The JY 72 below seems like the covers were repainted with the later bluer color.

Even in the junkyard pic the heads and intake have traces of green-blue, but oddly the block has none.







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