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SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. #3053266
06/25/22 12:40 PM
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Finally got the other half lured away from her 1 owner '06 Denali (actually she was "done with it"). She wants a Grand Cherokee (used). Found several locally but it seems they all come from Canada...and I'm not talking Canadian factory. A couple have bubbling under the paint on the leading edge of the hood and I recall hunting for a Ram truck a couple years ago and finding the exact same thing (Canada imports and rust bubbles on the hood).
-Why are all these rigs coming from Canada?
-Why do so many 2-5 year old rigs have this bubbling issue, we're not a "rust belt". Carfax is clean on the ones I've checked.
-SRT maintenance compared to 5.7 or 3.6? Fuel mileage difference is obvious.

2015+ Grand Cherokees...
Drove a '20 High Altitude with 5.7 yesterday.
Going to drive a '15 SRT today.
Will have her drive my Mom's '15 Limited 3.6 this evening so she gets the feel for all 3 powerplants.
She hates the look of the '21+(?) "L". Too much like a Durango I guess.

Any issues to look for in this year range?

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Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: Cheeto] #3053410
06/26/22 06:41 AM
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I don't own one but always look. It's almost apples and oranges comparing an SRT version to stock. The SRT is AWD, different suspension, uses 0w-40 engine oil, performance brakes, tires, overall more expensive to maintain but fun. twocents
I don't know anything about the paint issues.

Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: redraptor] #3053506
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minivans have this problem as well. [at least the 3rd gen, 99-2000, and the 4th gen, 2001-2007]
my opinion on this is that there are not enough drain holes in the front underside of the hood, allowing water to remain in place on the uncoated surfaces.
the way the hood is designed, driving in the rain allows water mist to enter the large holes in the forward under-structure, then eventually making it's way to the area where the upper and lower hood structures are crimped together. rust eventually forms, then paint blisters appear.
as i live in the rust belt where a salt brine is used for a winter de-icer, i have drilled extra drain holes in the forward area mentioned, then have my buddy spray his "secret sauce" oil liberally into the large holes of the under side. this stuff makes it's way into this uncoated area. it sure is messy for a while, but after almost 10 years owning this 1999 minivan, i have zero rust issues ! boogie [knocking on my head for good luck ! spank luck]
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Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: Cheeto] #3053780
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Originally Posted by Cheeto

-SRT maintenance compared to 5.7 or 3.6? Fuel mileage difference is obvious.


SRT maintenance will be much higher compared to a 3.6 or 5.7 powered Grand Cherokee.

* The 6.1 and 6.4 L Hemi SRT-8 engines require 0W40 synthetic oil and premium fuel.

* SRT-8 Grand Cherokees are equipped with Brembo brakes and ZR rated tires (which are expensive to replace).



Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: Cheeto] #3054067
06/28/22 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheeto
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-Why are all these rigs coming from Canada?...


It is simply the exchange rate. I've got a Durango that's being traded shortly, and I already know that it will be heading to the U.S. because the buyer is getting a bigger bang for the buck.


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Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: 300rag] #3063356
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Thanks for all the replies. The hunt continues.
The '15 SRT had a Carfax that raised some red flags for the asking price...probably why it's been on the lot since March.
She loves the "look" of the SRT and begrudgingly admits to enjoying the sound and acceleration but isn't too keen on the mileage with current fuel prices. Trailhawks are on her radar too.

She had a deposit on an "in transit" new-body-style Trailhawk but the vehicle didn't arrive the day it was supposed to and the salesman didn't respond to update requests several days later so she told them to refund her deposit.
In the past few weeks she's driven at least 8 different 2015-2022 Jeeps but none have checked off all her boxes. She actually warmed up to the new body style but the Trailhawk deal seems to have soured her on those.

Now interest rates have jumped twice since she first started looking and I can see that it's all getting very frustrating for her.

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Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: Cheeto] #3063963
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One word of caution from personal experience. We deal with the same thing here in Michigan with lots of Canadian imports. We picked up a Canadian 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland for my wife, loaded with everything including the leather dash that was badly deformed. We bought it knowing it was a common issue.

Got a letter from FCA 6 months later that they were doing a "Customer Satisfaction Program" on the leather dash: had to take it to the dealer where they had to take a bunch of specific pictures and send them to FCA where they'd decide whether to replace it or not. Two months later we get a letter saying they'd replace it, but special order parts from the vendor, etc. Four months later the parts come in, dealer calls us and says they might need it a couple of days since it's the first one they've done. Get a call after day 1 saying it's installed but there's a problem, can I come in. Show up and the Service Manager walks me into the Owner's office. When they sent in the warranty claim it automatically rejected as a Canadian-market VIN. They can do safety recalls with no problem, but because this was customer satisfaction, they weren't supposed to and FCA wants them to bill me for the entire job.

I'm working up a good head of steam when the owner says FCA approved the repair and shipped them the parts so he's going to fight them but wants me to know what's happening. He called be about a month later and said FCA was eating the parts and he'd pay the tech's labor.

If you're looking at something with factory warranty in force, have a chat with your dealer Service Manager to make sure what the rules are right now. If you're close to the border, you may need to/be able to take it to a Canadian dealer for warranty issues.

Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: nuthinbutmopar] #3063999
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Good info. The very first salesman was up front when asked about the Canadian import thing and said importing them instantly voids any remaining 3/36 warranty (maybe drivetrain too?).

Drove a '19 Overland with 34k miles today. Really nice ride, steering feels a touch "odd" to me. Maybe it's something to do with the lane-keep assist or I'm just too accustomed to my '21 and '17 Rams. Carfax shows this thing spent 10k miles as a rental then nearly 2 years under what I would call "dealer ownership" before going back to auction. What's up with that? Demo model for the head honcho?

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Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: Cheeto] #3064003
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They made a GC in the last few years that looked a lot like the SRT but had the regular engines. Limited X or something? Look into that.

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Originally Posted by Cheeto
Good info. The very first salesman was up front when asked about the Canadian import thing and said importing them instantly voids any remaining 3/36 warranty (maybe drivetrain too?).

Drove a '19 Overland with 34k miles today. Really nice ride, steering feels a touch "odd" to me. Maybe it's something to do with the lane-keep assist or I'm just too accustomed to my '21 and '17 Rams. Carfax shows this thing spent 10k miles as a rental then nearly 2 years under what I would call "dealer ownership" before going back to auction. What's up with that? Demo model for the head honcho?


Head honcho doesn't drive former rentals, it was probably a service loaner vehicle

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Limited X she drove first had the SRT hood, not sure about the fascia and side skirts.
Head honcho at a smaller (private) dealership maybe? Service loaner makes sense too though.


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Re: SRT, Jeep GC and Canadian questions. [Re: Cheeto] #3064079
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My first GC was an Overland in my desired color combo with V8/6 speed. Every option, rode great, was not as quick as i wanted. It was a Canada car with an excellent service history and 1 minor accident. I should have ran immediately when the salesman fired it up and it died immediately, twice. That rig was in the dealer more the first 4 months I owned it than with me, they footed the bill for EVERYTHING including rental cars. They returned it to me with a clean bill of health. Drove great for a month, 0 issues-then the nightmare started. It would randomly and constantly shut off while we were driving it. I got under to see if anything like a bare wire was touching frame, and the whole underside was caked in rust. Everything. Got rid of it and got an SRT, and while the miles per gallon are not on par with a sedan or a hybrid, this thing delivers smiles per gallon consistently. The hood issue is prevelant- they are made with dissimilar metals. Love the SRT lineup. Go with a 2014 up to get the 6.4 and 8 speed. Totally worth it. Maintenance cost is that much different until you get to having to do brakes or replace tires. I bought aftermarket ADB rotors and matching pads, and bought Continental tires. The tires were 1100 with 5 year alignment and roadhazard- worth it in my book, and the brakes shot me for about 700. All bets are off if you go to a dealer and have them put factory stuff on.....


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Conclusion:
1) She bought a new body style GC.
2) I once again hate everything to do with car salesmen and dealerships after this months-long search.


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