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'71 Dart project #3051781
06/19/22 06:47 PM
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Interesting compilation of parts. Tranny is about $5K alone (or more). Engine would really depend on how fresh it really is.

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/las-vegas-1971-dodge-dart-r5p7-small/7498604059.html


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Re: '71 Dart project [Re: oldjonny] #3051794
06/19/22 07:21 PM
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I know nothing about that transmission, but think I'd rather have something with just one shift lever though.

Seems pricey, but then there are some $$$ parts that come with it so it all adds up. Those engines are ferocious and you'd have no problem putting most other cars you'd run across in your rear view mirror if it was all set up right.

Re: '71 Dart project [Re: Neil] #3051803
06/19/22 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil
I know nothing about that transmission, but think I'd rather have something with just one shift lever though.

Seems pricey, but then there are some $$$ parts that come with it so it all adds up. Those engines are ferocious and you'd have no problem putting most other cars you'd run across in your rear view mirror if it was all set up right.


In the Lenco, the shift lever actually moves the clutch pack together to engage the gear in each housing. Adding progressively different ratio independent gear housings behind each other allows Lenco to create two-speed, four-speed, five-speed, and even six-speed transmissions. Made for drag racing. Never drove one on the street.

As for the car.....lots of work needs to be redone....you would be better off starting over.


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Re: '71 Dart project [Re: oldjonny] #3051902
06/20/22 08:10 AM
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I’m trying to figure out why the rear frame rail in the photo has ripples? Was it removed and sand-blasted as part of the rear end installation? I think I’ve seen sheet metal waves like that in past instances where the blasting psi or media was too aggressive.

It also looks like some fresh bonding or sealer material is between the pan and the aforementioned rail? More evidence that the rail was replaced?

Could be a pretty serious car when finished. I’ve always really liked the ‘70-‘72 Darts.

Re: '71 Dart project [Re: GB5andGY8] #3051954
06/20/22 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GB5andGY8
I’m trying to figure out why the rear frame rail in the photo has ripples? Was it removed and sand-blasted as part of the rear end installation? I think I’ve seen sheet metal waves like that in past instances where the blasting psi or media was too aggressive.

It also looks like some fresh bonding or sealer material is between the pan and the aforementioned rail? More evidence that the rail was replaced?

Could be a pretty serious car when finished. I’ve always really liked the ‘70-‘72 Darts.


I'm pretty sure all the frame rails look like that. I don't have any photos but remember that on at least one of my cars, probably the road runner because it's mini tubbed and shows more of the frame rail like that. The sealant is because the car has been mini tubbed.

I think you might be looking for things that just aren't there. Consider that crusty brake line. Do you think they would've left that there if they had removed a frame rail?

Another thought - if it needed the rail replaced, seems logical that they would've back halved it and saved a lot of trouble over removing and replacing a factory rail.







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Re: '71 Dart project [Re: Bob Stinson] #3051979
06/20/22 12:57 PM
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Car looks like it was being set up for a pro touring style build but a Lenco is pretty much drag only- can they even be downshifted? I didn't think so. That transmission is not a match for the car at all. Interesting collection of parts but an odd build.

Re: '71 Dart project [Re: Bob Stinson] #3052023
06/20/22 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Stinson
Originally Posted by GB5andGY8
I’m trying to figure out why the rear frame rail in the photo has ripples? Was it removed and sand-blasted as part of the rear end installation? I think I’ve seen sheet metal waves like that in past instances where the blasting psi or media was too aggressive.

It also looks like some fresh bonding or sealer material is between the pan and the aforementioned rail? More evidence that the rail was replaced?

Could be a pretty serious car when finished. I’ve always really liked the ‘70-‘72 Darts.


I'm pretty sure all the frame rails look like that. I don't have any photos but remember that on at least one of my cars, probably the road runner because it's mini tubbed and shows more of the frame rail like that. The sealant is because the car has been mini tubbed.


I personally have not seen the wrinkled rails like that and I've owned my fair share of Mopars. Maybe I've just been lucky where they were all a lot straighter than that on my cars? confused You make a good point about the brake line, but we've all seen inexplainable things done to cars over the years so I still think the rear wheel well looks kinda odd. twocents

Last edited by GB5andGY8; 06/20/22 03:43 PM. Reason: clarity
Re: '71 Dart project [Re: GB5andGY8] #3052026
06/20/22 03:20 PM
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If he is smart, he should just part-it-out and sell the body.


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Re: '71 Dart project [Re: Bob Stinson] #3052043
06/20/22 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Stinson
Originally Posted by GB5andGY8
I’m trying to figure out why the rear frame rail in the photo has ripples? Was it removed and sand-blasted as part of the rear end installation? I think I’ve seen sheet metal waves like that in past instances where the blasting psi or media was too aggressive.

It also looks like some fresh bonding or sealer material is between the pan and the aforementioned rail? More evidence that the rail was replaced?

Could be a pretty serious car when finished. I’ve always really liked the ‘70-‘72 Darts.


I'm pretty sure all the frame rails look like that. I don't have any photos but remember that on at least one of my cars, probably the road runner because it's mini tubbed and shows more of the frame rail like that. The sealant is because the car has been mini tubbed.

I think you might be looking for things that just aren't there. Consider that crusty brake line. Do you think they would've left that there if they had removed a frame rail?

Another thought - if it needed the rail replaced, seems logical that they would've back halved it and saved a lot of trouble over removing and replacing a factory rail.



From forming the curve, normal stuff on a body rails above rear axle.

Re: '71 Dart project [Re: 1972CudaV21] #3052046
06/20/22 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
If he is smart, he should just part-it-out and sell the body.


Ding Ding Ding! we have a winner!

I don't think the person who owns the car now has a clear vision of where the project is going.


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Re: '71 Dart project [Re: 67vertman] #3052057
06/20/22 05:33 PM
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Well if anyone was interested I cloud go take a look. Some cool pieces but a long way from being a driver for sure.


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