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What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 #3051785 06/19/22 06:53 PM 06/19/22 06:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado D dssaa OP super stock
dssaa OP super stock D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado	Having issues with the mini-starter in the 67 Charger I picked up. Its impacting the flywheel and not engaging. Tried several adjustments...no good. Decided to remove it and put in a stock starter. Car has long tube Hooker Headers, so there is my first issue. Impossible to remove the starter without dropping the header, right? Got all the bolts out, see that the torsion bar is running through the header, so that has to come out too! Also found the header was cracked in half at the manifold, and one of the tubes was coming apart. When I finally get this thing out, looking for recommendations for a better header setup? Or am I stuck....I can weld the header back together, but getting the starter/header back together is always a nighmare for me. Suggestions? Thanks! Dave in Colorado

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: dssaa] #3051800 06/19/22 07:51 PM 06/19/22 07:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,992 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,992 Oregon	For a street car I'd suggest one of the smallest options from TTi. Probably the 1 3/4 inch header or even go with a shorty header. https://www.ttiexhaust.com/TTi44025.htm

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: AndyF] #3051813 06/19/22 08:30 PM 06/19/22 08:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado D dssaa OP super stock
dssaa OP super stock D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado	This car was in the beginning of resto mod stages, as aftermarker A/C mostly installed. The 440 was built by a shop in Colorado Springs, and is dyno'd at about 550HP. Would the TTI headers choke it out, or would it be okay?

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: dssaa] #3051822 06/19/22 09:20 PM 06/19/22 09:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 553 DE Ply72rr mopar
Ply72rr mopar Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 553 DE	TTI says the shorty headers are good up to 475HP.

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: Ply72rr] #3051828 06/19/22 09:34 PM 06/19/22 09:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas	I've got a '66 Charger with a 440. Had the 1-3/4" TTI headers on it for a long time. Everything clears pretty good with that setup.

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: bobby66] #3051837 06/19/22 10:09 PM 06/19/22 10:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado D dssaa OP super stock
dssaa OP super stock D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado	Originally Posted by bobby66 Are you running a OEM starter? I don't mind springing for another mini starter, but I am already at strike one with that..... I've got a '66 Charger with a 440. Had the 1-3/4" TTI headers on it for a long time. Everything clears pretty good with that setup.

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: dssaa] #3051843 06/19/22 10:18 PM 06/19/22 10:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas	Originally Posted by dssaa Originally Posted by bobby66 Are you running a OEM starter? I don't mind springing for another mini starter, but I am already at strike one with that..... I've got a '66 Charger with a 440. Had the 1-3/4" TTI headers on it for a long time. Everything clears pretty good with that setup. I ran a oem type starter up until this year. I'm doing some upgrades and a mini-starter is part of it. Plenty of clearance, just working out the cable routing. Looks like it's gonna work fine.

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: dssaa] #3052138 06/21/22 09:18 AM 06/21/22 09:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,970 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,970 U.S.S.A.	Originally Posted by dssaa Having issues with the mini-starter in the 67 Charger I picked up. Its impacting the flywheel and not engaging. Tried several adjustments...no good. Decided to remove it and put in a stock starter. Car has long tube Hooker Headers, so there is my first issue. Impossible to remove the starter without dropping the header, right? Got all the bolts out, see that the torsion bar is running through the header, so that has to come out too! Also found the header was cracked in half at the manifold, and one of the tubes was coming apart. When I finally get this thing out, looking for recommendations for a better header setup? Or am I stuck....I can weld the header back together, but getting the starter/header back together is always a nightmare for me. Suggestions? Thanks! Dave in Colorado Picture of the header ? If the torsion bar went thru the header it sounds to me like the tube you think is cracked and broken is supposed to be like that so you don't have to take the t bar out to get the header in and out. Get an 1 7/8 primary tube header . running up my post count some more .

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: JohnRR] #3052823 06/23/22 09:17 PM 06/23/22 09:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado D dssaa OP super stock
dssaa OP super stock D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado	Finally got the drivers side off....yes, it was a 2pc header. Had to drop the steering linkage to wrangle it out. Now time to find replacements. Like the TTI, but they are pricey....I see Summit has the similar Hedman version for a much better price. Are they any good? MInd you, this going to just be a driver. It has alot of power, but I don't plan to go racing...

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: dssaa] #3052866 06/24/22 04:44 AM 06/24/22 04:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,995 s. e. pa. C calrobb2000 top fuel
calrobb2000 top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,995 s. e. pa.	hi you must have a starter for a 99 0r newer ! some starters did not have a sear with a tapered tooth to properly engauge flywheel . i just ran into this myself . 2000 dakota 360 starter works .

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: calrobb2000] #3053229 06/25/22 09:55 AM 06/25/22 09:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado D dssaa OP super stock
dssaa OP super stock D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 958 Colorado	I will keep that in mind. Just got off the TTI website...they are not shipping headers until at least August. Uh-Oh. Gonna have to find an alternate solution. I currenty have 2inch headers, wondering if I go down a size if I will have better fitment, or do I wait on TTI. I have an order ready to go with Mancini Racing....

Re: What headers are easies to intall in a 67 Charger with a 440 [Re: dssaa] #3053549 06/26/22 03:42 PM 06/26/22 03:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,336 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,336 north of coder	almost everything depends on the design [routing of the pipes] how easy they will be to install.

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