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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3043332
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Heck I'd kill for 3300 smile

Sounds like you have a good combo getting ready to make some noise. Im sure it will keep you ahead for that steak dinner race for awhile smile


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: Al_Alguire] #3043360
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Heck I'd kill for 3300 smile

Sounds like you have a good combo getting ready to make some noise. Im sure it will keep you ahead for that steak dinner race for awhile smile


Yeah someone has been slacking, but that’s Standard Operating Procedure, for him, and keeps saying he has PLENTY of time. LOL.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3043376
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Originally Posted by Streetwize
I'd put the cam in earlier unless you're tire limited. I'd guess about 870-880 hp


I let my machinist pick out the cam. He wants the cam set 107-108, which is where it’s at now.


We run the Indy CM3 cam. .768/.720" 284/300 on a 580 motor. It absolutely ran the best on a 108 centre line (intake). Motor makes over 900 in good air.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: Tig] #3043421
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Jeff,
Just stick to your work and run a good number.
No need to answer the jive talkers....


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: 440Jim] #3043479
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Originally Posted by 440Jim
Jeff,
Just stick to your work and run a good number.
No need to answer the jive talkers....


I usually have it coming. LOL.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3043486
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by 440Jim
Jeff,
Just stick to your work and run a good number.
No need to answer the jive talkers....


I usually have it coming. LOL.


No way? lol


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: Bad340fish] #3043491
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Originally Posted by Bad340fish
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by 440Jim
Jeff,
Just stick to your work and run a good number.
No need to answer the jive talkers....


I usually have it coming. LOL.


No way? lol

LOL!!!


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3045047
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Have been making slow progress with the engine. After mocking up a cylinder head to check for pushrod length, I noticed that the pushrods were going to hit the block. INDY casts one block for Wedge, and HEMI's. If the block is designated for a Wedge head, the boss for the HEMI head bolt is machined off. While this is a used block, the previous owner had SR heads, with 1.5 rockers. 440-1 heads with offset intake rockers, and 1.6 rockers changed the pushrod location. I taped everything off, and took my die grinder to the areas that need to be clearanced. Nothing too major, just takes time. A buddy of mine turned down the mandrel for my vacuum pump. Didn't want any more hanging out than was necessary.

Over the last weekend, I was able to get the rear end setup. A friend had a set of 4.30 Pro Gears with a few passes on them. I also think I have my RacePak driveshaft senor issue figured out. The graph has always been messed up after a pass, and never "clean". Doing some reading and it was mentioned that the bracket holding the sensor needs to be nonferrous. My was made of steel. Guessing the sensor was grounding out? That is now fixed, hopefully.

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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3050654
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Dyno session is scheduled for tomorrow morning. Engine is ready. Not sure my nerves are. LOL. I did get my 1150 Thumper carb from Dom, since the last time I posted on this thread. Looks awesome! I don't really have too many things to test. Will start out with Hooker 5209 headers, and my old 1050 for break in, then switch to Dom's carb, and bigger headers that fit my car. I did make the decision to run Sunoco Supreme 112 gas, instead of the Renegade 110.

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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3050664
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Jeff, i predict 910 hp at 7100 rpm. Dynoing at R&R? Good luck with it!


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Originally Posted by gregsdart
Jeff, i predict 910 hp at 7100 rpm. Dynoing at R&R? Good luck with it!


Not R&R. The dyno is in Eden Valley. Craig's Machine & Dyno. He is good friends with my machinist.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3050690
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Good luck Jeff! Can't wait for the results! up


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: tboomer] #3050719
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Best of luck hopefully it does all you want it to do.....Refresh my memory any big changes other than the block from the old set up?


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Originally Posted by tboomer
Good luck Jeff! Can't wait for the results! up

iagree What he said!!!


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: Al_Alguire] #3050756
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Best of luck hopefully it does all you want it to do.....Refresh my memory any big changes other than the block from the old set up?


The only thing I used from the old engine, is the distributor, and oil pan. SR heads vs 440-1 345CNC's, 499ci vs, 563ci, Bigger headers, bigger carb, and WAY bigger cam.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3050772
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Should make plenty more power...Did you ever dyno the old combo?

I wish we could get some parts. Love to share the build stuff but its just sitting collecting dust


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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Should make plenty more power...Did you ever dyno the old combo?

I wish we could get some parts. Love to share the build stuff but its just sitting collecting dust


The old engine made 732hp with a flat tappet cam. Not sure what happened to the dyno sheets, as that was 19 years ago.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3050888
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I know on my 'old' Jesel belt I had to skip a tooth to get it to 'retard' the cam. I think that was common. I don't think that cam will be too far off at all! But the motor might want it more retarded. What were the numbers at .200'? What springs are you using? I'd expect it to make about 900HP ( as intrepreted by "wallace") I'm assuming this is a different dyno than last? Regardless good luck!

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Things are coming together Jeff!! You’ll be Brainerd bound sooner than you know it!!

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