Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
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05/24/22 08:36 PM
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so it needs to go to the right? I don't know, you didn't tell us which direction it was out. You'll have to look at your numbers and figure out what + and - mean in terms of direction.
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Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
[Re: AndyF]
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05/25/22 09:06 PM
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I think what confuses most is the = and - readings. You have to remember for example, + .007 and -.007 Mathematically total a difference of .014" Example: If you zero your indicator at the -.007 Then run the motor around again you will find that the +.007 has now become +.014 if you zero at the +.007, run the motor around you'll find that the -.007 is now -.014 So a .007 offset dowel properly located will get you half way to zero with + / - .0035 A .014 dowel properly located should get you to zero but may impact your top and bottom readings. So you have to rob Peter to pay Paul and hope Judas isn't hanging out around the corner LOL
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Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
[Re: dustemup]
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05/26/22 07:59 AM
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so it needs to go to the right? You are overthinking this. Just step back and think about what you are seeing: Dial mounted on crank, dial button on bell housing. If the dial indicator reading is increasing, the button is being depressed, the bell housing is getting closer to the crank centerline. Conversely if the reading is deceasing, the button is extending and the bell housing is moving away from the crank centerline. At the maximum reading or minimum reading, look at what the button on the dial indicator would have to do to bring the reading to zero and that's the way the bell has to be shifted. The amount is half of the total indicator reading (TIR) or in your case 0.014 (+.007 to -0.007). I hate to throw in this caviate but the + and - readings do not have to be equal. In your case you could have +0.004 and -0.010 which would still give you a TIR of 0.014 and 0.007 offset.
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Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
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05/26/22 12:14 PM
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so it needs to go to the right? You are overthinking this. Just step back and think about what you are seeing: Dial mounted on crank, dial button on bell housing. If the dial indicator reading is increasing, the button is being depressed, the bell housing is getting closer to the crank centerline. Conversely if the reading is deceasing, the button is extending and the bell housing is moving away from the crank centerline. At the maximum reading or minimum reading, look at what the button on the dial indicator would have to do to bring the reading to zero and that's the way the bell has to be shifted. The amount is half of the total indicator reading (TIR) or in your case 0.014 (+.007 to -0.007). I hate to throw in this caviate but the + and - readings do not have to be equal. In your case you could have +0.004 and -0.010 which would still give you a TIR of 0.014 and 0.007 offset. Well put.
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Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
[Re: dustemup]
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05/28/22 10:13 AM
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This is what I hear you saying. And yes, 0.008 TIR is the factory specification but I would shoot for less. It looks different than your original post but I am going by what you said.
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Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
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05/28/22 10:58 AM
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Once you are done getting the opening for the transmission centered to the crankshaft/transmission centerline, don't forget to make sure the face of the bellhousing is square to the block too. I had to use shims on my Lakewood scatter shield to get mine to sit square to the crank/transmission centerline.
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Re: BELL HOUSING ALIGNMENT HELP
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05/29/22 02:44 PM
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I like that tool, I found that surfing by accident, wondering if anybody on moppets would rent one out Hmmm... Maybe I should buy one and rent it out at $30 a pop and it would pay for itself in about 5 rentals I use this tool another member made for me from a drawing I made. It mounts the indicator solid to a 6 bolt crank and it has been used on cars from coast to coast. Shoot me a PM with your info and I'll send it to you. Gus
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