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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: MarkZ] #3043666
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
Anyone ever check out molten salt solar installations? For generating power it's a stupid idea, but I wonder if the same principal could be used for desalination. Boil salt water with concentrated sun light. Not like we don't have deserts right on the ocean.

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Yep. Just south of Vegas.


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: a12rag] #3043722
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Originally Posted by a12rag
Well here is something on the desalination front :

https://www.designboom.com/technolo...n-unit-generates-clean-water-04-29-2022/

Can be solar powered !!! . . . there it is, time to ramp up the scale and start sucking up the pacific for the parched California areas . . .

Excellent idea. This will piss off the environmentalists though....You tell them that using sea water will offset any rise in ocean levels and watch their heads explode!

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Kern Dog] #3043726
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Hey !! Never thought of that !!! Of course, solve 2 problems at same time !!! . . . up

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: moparmarks] #3043775
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Originally Posted by moparmarks
Originally Posted by MarkZ
Anyone ever check out molten salt solar installations? For generating power it's a stupid idea, but I wonder if the same principal could be used for desalination. Boil salt water with concentrated sun light. Not like we don't have deserts right on the ocean.

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Yep. Just south of Vegas.


Ivanpah solar generating station….. lots of interesting reading on that folly .

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: 360view] #3141211
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Not sure I agree with this article about Beef cattle and shortages of Colorado River water:

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23655640/colorado-river-water-alfalfa-dairy-beef-meat

Not sure I agree with recent hour long PBS TV show claiming
it takes 10 gallons of California irrigation water
to grow 10 single tiny almonds,
and that 8 of those almonds are then exported out of the USA to foreign countries.

https://www.riversendfilm.com/

I am confident that it would be a good idea to offer a
$5,000,000 prize
for best plan to transport seasonal excess flow Missouri River water
through underground porous rock layers
to the Colorado River watershed.

Start of such a plan would be a prize of $100,000 to get amateur geologists
to search & identify a natural water spring somewhere in the Colorado Watershed
whose spring water can be somehow traced to a source in the Missouri & its Tributary rivers watersheds.

Might be worth similar prizes to get Columbia River water through porous rock layers to Colorado watershed.

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: 360view] #3141307
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Years ago, pre 1980, CA wanted to build a large undersea water pipe from the end of Columbia river down into northern CA for more fresh water,
Both Oregon and Washinton told them to go pound sand shruggy
I'm surprised that CA hasn't already built a water pipe, canal, conduit from the exit of the Roque and Klamath Rivers to capture that water flowing into the Pacific Ocean in southern Oregon shruggy whistling stirthepot devil

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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Cab_Burge] #3141322
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The unfortunate reality is that Los Angeles is a desert but people don’t treat it like one. They wanted to divert the Sacramento River to Southern California a few years back.

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: nutso suave] #3141370
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Thye built that canal and water storage lakes in the late 1960s and finish it in early 1970s. They called it the Feather River Project scope L.A. started importing water from the Ownes valley on the east side of the Seirra Mtns. in the early 1900s, they also built several different canals form the Colorado river into L.A. before the 1950, one from Lake Havasu and another from the border of the U.S. and Mexico that they named the All American canal scope
The L.A. Basin was home to many large citrus groves and many other types of produce in the 1900 up to the early to mid 1940s when the invaders from all the other states in our country started moving there for the better weather and living conditions, now it is commercial development and housing tracts from the Pacific Ocean to the mountain passes leading out into the Mojave Desert rant whiney shruggy

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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Cab_Burge] #3141393
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So the question is this: is lake Powell 70% empty, or is it 30% full?


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3141394
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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
So the question is this: is lake Powell 70% empty, or is it 30% full?


The answer is that since it is a man made lake it is returning to it's natural state.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
So the question is this: is lake Powell 70% empty, or is it 30% full?


The answer is that since it is a man made lake it is returning to it's natural state.
are you saying original state or natural man made state lake?


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Cab_Burge] #3141452
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
So the question is this: is lake Powell 70% empty, or is it 30% full?


The answer is that since it is a man made lake it is returning to it's natural state.
are you saying original state or natural man made state lake?


Meaning that it wasn't a lake so it shouldn't have water in it.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge


are you saying original state or natural man made state lake?


That is an oxymoron.

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3141475
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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
So the question is this: is lake Powell 70% empty, or is it 30% full?


Last night I watched the PBS “Wild Rivers with Tillie” episode on Glen Canyon “river” that has emerged from the dropping lake level.

In 1980 I rafted the Colorado when river water flow and lake levels were near max, and the then permitted use of 5 HP maximum, extra muffled, gasoline outboard motors was about to be banned a few months in the future.

Great trip, great devout Mormon river guides, great food, hair-raising end of trip helicopter ride out of the canyon using the “hot air thermals” to gain altitude by being VERY close to the sunny side canyon walls.

Guides refused to let me swim on purpose 100% of Lava Falls ( like Robert Kennedy did) but admitted there was a real chance everyone in some of the rafts would end up swimming half of it. Guides ended my protests by saying: You may be needed to save your Mom & Dad’s lives if we flip.

Then was guilty of further “climate warming sin” by attending the Mining Convention in Los Vegas.

Won net $5000 at Roulette using the “Martindale betting system”, but had to “cover” one $8000 spin. Heartbeat rate was racing, and I have had a heart defect since birth.

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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: 360view] #3141612
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Drove over the Mississippi river bridge in Hannibal, MO today, we have some MASSIVE flooding here from the snow melt, the river was down 60% early this year, no barge traffic going down it, now the same thing for the opposite reason! I guess to keep you clowns in the west happy we will need to divert the Mississippi your way, huh? laugh2


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Rhinodart] #3141671
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Jim you know that I'm already a happy clown. boogie


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: moparmarks] #3141698
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Originally Posted by moparmarks
Jim you know that I'm already a happy clown. boogie


I don't consider you "out west", don't have to go to much further west to find the clowns though... penguinwalk


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: SNK-EYZ] #3141702
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Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
So the question is this: is lake Powell 70% empty, or is it 30% full?


The answer is that since it is a man made lake it is returning to it's natural state.
are you saying original state or natural man made state lake?


Meaning that it wasn't a lake so it shouldn't have water in it.


Well dam.

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Years ago, pre 1980, CA wanted to build a large undersea water pipe from the end of Columbia river down into northern CA for more fresh water,
Both Oregon and Washinton told them to go pound sand shruggy
I'm surprised that CA hasn't already built a water pipe, canal, conduit from the exit of the Roque and Klamath Rivers to capture that water flowing into the Pacific Ocean in southern Oregon shruggy whistling stirthepot devil



I don't see how it would negatively affect washington or oregon once they get a little cash kickback for it being off their coast a little ways. The columbia makes far more sense than the missouri or mississippi, it could all be under the sea, wildlife can swim over or under it so basically no affect on that, a leak is just gonna put fresh water in the ocean that was already going in the ocean, pumping would be far simpler, you could run a 10 foot pipe with as much pumping as it can handle and it will not noticably affect the fresh water dumping into the ocean.


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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: Cab_Burge] #3141938
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Years ago, pre 1980, CA wanted to build a large undersea water pipe from the end of Columbia river down into northern CA for more fresh water,
Both Oregon and Washinton told them to go pound sand shruggy
I'm surprised that CA hasn't already built a water pipe, canal, conduit from the exit of the Roque and Klamath Rivers to capture that water flowing into the Pacific Ocean in southern Oregon shruggy whistling stirthepot devil


They were recently wanting a pipeline from the great lakes, they were given the same 1 finger salute grin

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