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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3042761
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I'd have to guess it'd make a metric $#!+ - of horsepower with a sizeable pantload of torque.

Sure looks good. Are you going to break some hearts and grind off the logo on the belt drive?


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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Are you going to break some hearts and grind off the logo on the belt drive?


No. It gets covered enough by the engine plate, and water pump. I'll break hearts by painting an aluminum block...


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True to form, then. up

I love the overall look with the painted parts, and all the extra work you put in. Really sets it apart.


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Re: 563ci build specs, what will it make? [Re: JERICOGTX] #3042799
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Primary tubes are 39” long. They step up from 2.125-2.250 after 6 “ from the header flange. I basically copied my Hooker 5209 headers, when I built them, only these actually fit the car without a hammer.

What headers will be used on the dyno?
Those are pretty long, IMO. I do like the short length of 2.125 tubes. I made mine with 8” of 2.125” and 21” of 2.250” for a total 29” length.


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We will make the first pulls with Hooker 5209 headers, then switch over to the headers I built. I basically copied the 5209 headers when I built them.

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Very nice looking headers. up
I wasn't sure if the Hooker car headers would fit around the dyno you will use.
I look forward to the performance comparison.


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I'd put the cam in earlier unless you're tire limited. I'd guess about 870-880 hp


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Originally Posted by Streetwize
I'd put the cam in earlier unless you're tire limited. I'd guess about 870-880 hp


I let my machinist pick out the cam. He wants the cam set 107-108, which is where it’s at now.


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
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I'd put the cam in earlier unless you're tire limited. I'd guess about 870-880 hp


I let my machinist pick out the cam. He wants the cam set 107-108, which is where it’s at now.

I am guessing stick cars like a little earlier c/l?. Plenty of duration.


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Originally Posted by gregsdart
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I'd put the cam in earlier unless you're tire limited. I'd guess about 870-880 hp


I let my machinist pick out the cam. He wants the cam set 107-108, which is where it’s at now.

I am guessing stick cars like a little earlier c/l?. Plenty of duration.


No clue. I wish I understood camshafts more. About a year ago, he built a 572 Mopar with 572-13 heads, and it made 1000hp. I didn't see any reason for him to not pick out the cam.


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Some things in our combos are close. I'm assuming your actual bore is 4.530". Yours has .250" less stroke, 1.5 points less compression, less lift (mine has 1.7 rocker). But it has stepped headers with a larger collector, arguably better intake, a touch more duration. My cam was in at 108 for years. Just moved it back to 111. So far the results are positive. My bet is yours will be over 900hp at higher rpm than mine. I think you'll be pleased with the outcome.
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Doug, bore is 4.524. Previous owner of the block just had it cleaned up enough, and ordered custom pistons for it. When I got the block, it had broke a rod bolt on the 202 pass, since being refreshed. It was in a dragster, that only ran 1/8 mile. The block came with 6 good pistons, so I only had to order two from Diamond. I tried to keep this on somewhat of a budget, so I used what I had, and worked around it.


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That explains it. I did the last bore at 4.505" wanted to go to 4.510" this time but there was limited ring selection.
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Well if it's 111 and in at 107 it's plus 4 where I thought it was put in straight-up (@ 111 ATDC) which for a non efi car seems late.





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Originally Posted by Streetwize
Well if it's 111 and in at 107 it's plus 4 where I thought it was put in straight-up (@ 111 ATDC) which for a non efi car seems late.




Checking the cam installed straight up, it came to 102. I had all I could do to get it to 109, but after talking with the machinist, he wanted it around 107-108. It's at 108 right now.


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My guess is 865hp


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Originally Posted by WadeMetzinger
My guess is 865hp


My goal is 850hp. Anything over is a bonus. Anything less, is what it is.


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
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My guess is 865hp


My goal is 850hp. Anything over is a bonus. Anything less, is what it is.

I'm no dyno guy, but I'll say I think you're gonna be happy w/ it! up


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OK I'm guessing it might be an Ultradyne or Bullet because they seem to cut a lot of their cams for 102 ICL, at least on their Asymmetrical (fast opening/slow closing) lobes.

I always referred to "straight-up' as when the installed CL is the same as the lobe spread, (i.e., 111)

That thing should rip the welds out of the frame with those heads and cubes, what stall and gear are you running?


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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Originally Posted by WadeMetzinger
My guess is 865hp


My goal is 850hp. Anything over is a bonus. Anything less, is what it is.

I'm no dyno guy, but I'll say I think you're gonna be happy w/ it! up


I've lowered my expectations enough to just live with what ever happens.


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