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04/24/22 07:39 PM
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Question on a St. Louis built 71.

Fender tag has a build date of 521 and to the right of that is 6 digits that match that of numbers at the top right of the Monroney Sheet under S. O. Number.
Is this 6 digit number the sequence number on the top line of the broadcast sheet?

Does this sequence number correspond to the line sequence. If so, assuming a number 123456, would the next car down the line be 123457.

Re: You numbers experts [Re: A727Tflite] #3036709
04/24/22 08:53 PM
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NO...THE BUILD SEQ # IS ONLY ON THE B/SHEET..AS IT ONLY DENOTED THE ACTUAL TRIP DOWN THE ASSY LINE.. THE S.O NUMBER IS THE SAME NUMBER AS THE FACTORY/DEALER ORDER FORM TOP RIGHT CORNER.. ..SEQ# IS IN ORDER ON THE LINE....BUT CAN BE ANY CAR SEQUENTIALLY THEY HAVE IN LINE.. NOT TIED TO AN ORDER OR STYLE..JUST RANDOM


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Re: You numbers experts [Re: ph23vo] #3038099
04/29/22 12:33 AM
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I'd like to add to this.
I have invoices "Tentative" price (Invoiced 5 days before build) and "Firm" price (one month after Sch Build Date) along with an order form that I obtained from the owner of a dealership (dated end of june '67) in 1987 or 88 for a car I had recently purchased..
The vehicle purchase order form has the order number written on the upper right hand corner AND the VIN is hand written on the form in a field labeled Serial Number. The invoice has the same order number preceded by the following 927-GW-109### <-Order Number. Car is a St Louis Coronet scheduled 927 (on fender tag). The order number is very low 109###. I'm assuming orders started with 10##### every year. I'm guessing that Invoice number is the scheduled build date, St Louis Coronet and the order number.
There is also a "List No." that differs between the two invoices thus 4090-01-3016 on the Tentative and 4090-01-3501 on the Firm. Both the invoices have the complete VIN.
Other interesting items are the shipping route. It's designated G43 SLSF-QA&P-ATSF-SP-OAKLAND-CCI (St. Louis–San Francisco Railway, Quanah, Acme and Pacific Railway, Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway - Southern Pacific Transportation (Rail), Oakland (Rail terminal?), and finally CCI a Truck Transport Company. Also included is money info (record of a CD (Certificate of Deposit) at a bank local to the dealership.
I've not seen these documents any other time and obtained. FWIW it appears the dealer made only about $200 and any profit on the trade-in on the sale.

Re: You numbers experts [Re: srt] #3038112
04/29/22 01:49 AM
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if either of you have broadcast sheets for those 1968 & 1971 St. Louis assembled b-bodies, I can tell you when the cars were actually "In Plant/In Process" - send me a PM or email

Re: You numbers experts [Re: 6bblgt] #3038159
04/29/22 09:01 AM
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Fascinating stuff, thanks for posting !

Re: You numbers experts [Re: 6bblgt] #3038286
04/29/22 05:07 PM
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Out of curiosity. Why is the build sheet needed for the in plant/in process info?
No build sheet is available, yet the dates I have seem to indicate it was in plant between 9/27 and 10/12 (the date hand written above purchase date 6/26)
There are other interesting tid-bits on the invoices. On the Invoices are two columns fro prices "Factory Wholesale Prices" and "E.H.&O" under which are listed prices for coded items (as on the broadcast sheet or fender tag). There are also codes and description of the options. At the bottom is "042-Destination Charge", and under that is "HB 6270" on the "tentative" Inv, and "HB 6290" on the later "Firm" In.







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