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New Dodge buzz and sting #3037637
04/27/22 03:25 PM
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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: stumpy] #3037641
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A compact car doesn’t do much for me.


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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: stumpy] #3037645
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Oh, fun! An Alfa Romeo with "Dodge" badging.... shake_head

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: 1972CudaV21] #3037649
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Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
A compact car doesn’t do much for me.


I dunno, I had an 86 Daytona and it was a hoot to drive. But it was fragile, 3 engines and 4 transmissions replaced int the 5 year warranty period.

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: stumpy] #3037652
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170 horsepower? Not much fun there.


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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: 1972CudaV21] #3037665
04/27/22 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
A compact car doesn’t do much for me.
Same here. I hope it's a cash cow for them though so it'll fund more fun stuff.


Facts are stubborn things.
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
A compact car doesn’t do much for me.


I dunno, I had an 86 Daytona and it was a hoot to drive. But it was fragile, 3 engines and 4 transmissions replaced int the 5 year warranty period.
Geez lead foot.... laugh


Facts are stubborn things.
Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: Sniper] #3037667
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
A compact car doesn’t do much for me.


I dunno, I had an 86 Daytona and it was a hoot to drive. But it was fragile, 3 engines and 4 transmissions replaced int the 5 year warranty period.


Were you jumping it over dry creekbeds?! eek


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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: GY3] #3037675
04/27/22 04:56 PM
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No secret that Stellantis wants to platform-share as much as possible.
Look at what MBZ & Fiat did previously; nobody's gonna tool up an all-new Mopar sedan.
I recall a Hornet concept car many years back - '90s ? - that was cool.

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: topside] #3037684
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Originally Posted by topside
No secret that Stellantis wants to platform-share as much as possible.
Look at what MBZ & Fiat did previously; nobody's gonna tool up an all-new Mopar sedan.
I recall a Hornet concept car many years back - '90s ? - that was cool.


Platform share yes but this is bascially a rebadge as far as I can tell. That said I'd expect at least 300hp out of it. I've driven a Rav4 PHEV and it packed a punch for what it was when floored from a dig. Weird sensation the electric motors giving torque yet the scream of the engine as well.

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: stumpy] #3037693
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At least they didn't call it a Dart or Duster. I don't mind seeing electric grocery getters. Just keep the greenies hands off the performance models.

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: GY3] #3037699
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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
A compact car doesn’t do much for me.


I dunno, I had an 86 Daytona and it was a hoot to drive. But it was fragile, 3 engines and 4 transmissions replaced int the 5 year warranty period.


Were you jumping it over dry creekbeds?! eek


Raised bed railroad tracks, lol. Once.

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: stumpy] #3037700
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I don't get why the US car makers can't make money on small cars, honda and toyota make a ton and they don't make crap that needs to be constantly renamed and badge engineered to hide the fact they are still making garbage, I mean how many small cars has dodge had since the civic and corrola came out?

Sorry for the rant.


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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: HotRodDave] #3037722
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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I don't get why the US car makers can't make money on small cars, honda and toyota make a ton and they don't make crap that needs to be constantly renamed and badge engineered to hide the fact they are still making garbage, I mean how many small cars has dodge had since the civic and corrola came out?

Sorry for the rant.


Over the last 30 (?) years, Chrysler has gone from Chrysler, to that holding company, to Mercedes Bentz, to Fiat, to now the new people. Everything someone new puts their name on the paperwork, they replace the very old outdated product line with a rebadged models of their own production, restyle one or two of the old product line, and maybe after a few years, add one or two new new models based on one of their existing platforms.

As long as the company is under revolving ownership, nothing is going to change. Some improvements may happen if a company holds Chrysler enough years to actually develop a "new" product line, Mercedes and Fiat come to mind. If you expect a new owner to start off investing in an all new product line for something they just bought, you really are dreaming.

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: stumpy] #3037724
04/27/22 08:11 PM
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Wow I thought the Ford Focus couldn't get any uglier and then they release that...

Wait it's a Dodge???

It looks like the ugliest Ford focus's even uglier sister that they keep in the basement so nobody will see it.

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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: IMGTX] #3037727
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So why can't they at least give a rendering showing anything than that horse collar grille? pity


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Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: Rhinodart] #3037732
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
So why can't they at least give a rendering showing anything than that horse collar grille? pity


Spy shots

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/04/d...-in-hybrid-will-be-revealed-this-summer/

Re: New Dodge buzz and sting [Re: HotRodDave] #3037859
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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I don't get why the US car makers can't make money on small cars, honda and toyota make a ton and they don't make crap that needs to be constantly renamed and badge engineered to hide the fact they are still making garbage, I mean how many small cars has dodge had since the civic and corrola came out?

Sorry for the rant.

Not to mention some models built in the States with few quality issues. twocents







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