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1962 dodge 361 engine questions #3037134
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I just discovered that Dodge produced a HP 361 engine in 1962 that had dual quads and was rated at 310HP. Since the big news in 1962 was the 413 ramcharger, I assume this was an engine designed for lower classes of drag racing. Does anyone know what carburetors were used on the engine? Did it come with the dual football air cleaners? Anybody got pictures of the engine as it came from the factory?

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Not sure on the dual 4 part but i had a 62 with the 361 4barrel (unsilenced air cleaner, dual points) and it got with the program embarrassing more that it's share of Detroit's 66-71 offerings . It had a lot of miles on it so it was a bit "loose" but still had good compression. Bad car for a 17 YO to own LOL wink The funny part is i don't remember ever getting a ticket or stopped while owning it beer

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there was a 305hp 361, and the 343hp 383 but i don't know of a 310hp 361. there were some long ram 361's but i think that was 1960.

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Originally Posted by lewtot184
there was a 305hp 361, and the 343hp 383 but i don't know of a 310hp 361. there were some long ram 361's but i think that was 1960.

What was the 343hp 383? I thought they topped out at 335.

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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
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there was a 305hp 361, and the 343hp 383 but i don't know of a 310hp 361. there were some long ram 361's but i think that was 1960.

What was the 343hp 383? I thought they topped out at 335.


It was a dual inline quad arrangement IIRC. I don't recall the application.


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Yup, the 343 rating was 2x4 carbs on 383.
Never seen one except at the NHRA Winternationals a LONG time ago, in a wagon as I recall.
May have been a creation to fit in a class.
In the early '60s, there were a lot of not-really-factory combos running, like tri-five Chevy sedan deliveries with Hydromatics.

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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
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there was a 305hp 361, and the 343hp 383 but i don't know of a 310hp 361. there were some long ram 361's but i think that was 1960.

What was the 343hp 383? I thought they topped out at 335.
dual quad 383. there is debate about them actually being made but they were run in nhra stock classes.

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The 2X4 361 might be in the NHRA Stock guide. I seem to recall someone building one a few years ago.


There is at least 1 2X4 383 running. Pretty sure it is a wagon.


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I just looked on nhra class racer info and there is no 2x4 361 listed for 1962 dodge , chrysler or plymouth

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There is an inline dual quad B intake with a pair of Carter 4181 AFB's for sale on FB right now

https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/457422562803550/?ref=share_attachment

Not mine, I know nothing about it.

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Originally Posted by old_racer
I just looked on nhra class racer info and there is no 2x4 361 listed for 1962 dodge , chrysler or plymouth


1960 only for both Plymouth and Dodge.

NHRA Classification only goes back to 1960, I know we had 350 2 x 4 in the late 50’s.

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II remember seeing two 1962 Dodge station wagon (Don Studley and his engien guru partner Al Etter) and Plymouth 2 door hardtop (CRS his Name now: blush:) with inline dual quads on 383 motors raced in NHRA Division t at many of the SO CA tracks like Ornge County, Irwindale, Long Beach and Riverside raceways in the early 1970s.
I got to talk to both of those racers and they told me the same story on that combination never being made by Dodge or Plymouth. They both said that an engineering chemical employee of the Ethanol Corp. based in SO CA had taken the liberty to take a 1962 383 as a test mule and used the intake and carbs off of a earlier model to test on their dyno and in a car for knock resistance testing shruggy
I can't sya it is exact truth or not as I never got to talk to that engineer confused


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Yeah, Cab, that's where I would've seen the car, most likely at the Winternationals but maybe Lions.
One of my cousins had a '58 Fury with a 2x4 350 about 50 years ago, but I don't know if it was stock. Car had other mods.
I have a '58 brochure, I'll try to remember to look through it.

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Originally Posted by lewtot184
Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
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there was a 305hp 361, and the 343hp 383 but i don't know of a 310hp 361. there were some long ram 361's but i think that was 1960.

What was the 343hp 383? I thought they topped out at 335.
dual quad 383. there is debate about them actually being made but they were run in nhra stock classes.


I have in my formerly nicotine stained fingers an actual NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. The updated 1962 Dodge sheet is dated 1969. Engine horsepowers listed are;

145 230 260 305 343 385 394 410 420

The guide doesn't list cubic inches or carburetion. Plymouth engine horsepowers for 1962 are listed as;

145 230 260 305 343 410 420





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The 410 an 420 HP will be the high and low compression Max Wedge Dodges AKA Super Stock in Plymouths line. I'm almost positive both of the motors were a mid year introduction, maybe not confused
The 343 HP is probably the dual 4 383 and the 305 is the 361 four barrel motor shruggy


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Originally Posted by John Brown
Originally Posted by lewtot184
Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
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there was a 305hp 361, and the 343hp 383 but i don't know of a 310hp 361. there were some long ram 361's but i think that was 1960.

What was the 343hp 383? I thought they topped out at 335.
dual quad 383. there is debate about them actually being made but they were run in nhra stock classes.


I have in my formerly nicotine stained fingers an actual NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. The updated 1962 Dodge sheet is dated 1969. Engine horsepowers listed are;

145 230 260 305 343 385 394 410 420

The guide doesn't list cubic inches or carburetion. Plymouth engine horsepowers for 1962 are listed as;

145 230 260 305 343 410 420



pretty sure the dodge 385 is the in-line dual quad 413. have no idea what the 394 is.

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There is a couple of '62 383 dual 4 cars running in Division 5. ALSO, there is an NHRA classification for a 62 inline dual 4's 413 of which there is only a couple in the country, with another being built right now. These combos may not have been available from the factory but are still listed in the NHRA class.

A good local example of this is Rich Charbonneau's 67 Fairlane wagon with a 427. Never made, but in the NRHA rules. He had to carry around a letter from NHRA saying he was legal, and he did quite well.

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Originally Posted by John Brown
I have in my formerly nicotine stained fingers an actual NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. The updated 1962 Dodge sheet is dated 1969. Engine horsepowers listed are;

145 230 260 305 343 385 394 410 420

The guide doesn't list cubic inches or carburetion. Plymouth engine horsepowers for 1962 are listed as;

145 230 260 305 343 410 420



Originally Posted by lewtot184
pretty sure the dodge 385 is the in-line dual quad 413. have no idea what the 394 is.


The classification guide has an asterix (*) over the 394 that leads to a note saying to use the 385 horsepower factors for cars in Super Stock classes. That means the 394 was the same as the 385 except for something that the SS rules didn't cover. Something like a camshaft difference or maybe a different or modified intake manifold.


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i believe the 385hp-413 is a carry over from the 300f/g/h's. seems to be no mention of the 361 sonoramic or the '61 413 long ram in the dodges (or maybe this is the 394hp?). a 385hp-413 would be cool to build in a '62 b-body.

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i found a 2x4 310hp 361 for 1960 plymouth. i also found a 330hp 2x4 383 ram for 1960 plymouth. dodge shows the 310hp 361 as a ram induction engine for 1960

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