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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: bobby66] #3036179
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Originally Posted by bobby66


I wonder how the Salton Sea is doing these days. Haven't been there since 1967..... wave


Disappearing a little bit every year.

Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: 360view] #3036204
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Whisky is for drinking
and water is for fighting over.

... allegedly said by Mark Twain

The land beneath the Great Lakes is supposed to keep “tilting” toward the south east which will eventually cause the water to drain away,
although some argue that there is a crack in the continent beneath Lake Superior that is too deep to ever drain completely.
One prior Great Lake is believed to have already drained away this way.

There have been massive long lasting droughts out West,
and they were not caused by man burning fossil fuels.

Elon Musk has a lesser known company called “The Boring Company” that wants to build parabolic subway transportation systems,
but could shift to building a tunnel between the Mississippi and Colorado watersheds.

The 30+ mile railroad tunnel in Switzerland shows what could be done.

I did a Masters at the University of Newcastle because the Mining School head there, Scottish Professor Potts, was the long time advocate for building a tunnel between England and Europe. Professor Potts also wanted to mine coal from Scotland out under the North Sea, then set up oil drilling rigs in the coal mines to drill down to the oil deposits deeper down.

China has been connecting its major rivers to send the water where some humans want it.

China intends to use its huge military tunnel systems to survive a Nuclear war that it will start.

Sap is the French word for a small mine or tunnel.
In English, a “Sapper” is a specially trained soldier who can use explosives, originally in tunnels to collapse castle walls.

Stable, honest, money used to be considered so important that only miners were allowed to mine a metal that would be used as money.

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When we moved to the desert 25 years ago the water would splash over the spillways on a windy day at Hoover. Lake Mohave goes down every winter but is as normal as can be right now as they ramp it up for downstream agriculture every spring. Sooner than later they’re not going to be able to fill it.

https://www.thespectrum.com/story/n...t-more-natural-colorado-rive/9132210002/


There has also been talk of removing Glen Canyon Dam altogether


Just looked up Lake Mohave and it’s 93.7% full pool…..

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https://mojaveproject.org/dispatches-item/the-trouble-with-cadiz/

Another interesting water grab that’s going on…..

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I've driven by their, Cadiz, Amboy, Essex and the others on that route, many, many times on both the old route 66 and the new Hwy 40 freeway on the way to Needles, Searchlight, North Las Vegas, Kingman, Az and to Wiliams, AZ and the Grand Canyon from 29 Palms and Joshua Tree, CA wrench scope

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Re: Lake Powell is 70% empty [Re: bobby66] #3036766
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It really is down! I wonder what's been found over the years since the water went down.
I camped there when I was an 18 year old brat in1990,a bunch of college brats from California showed up with every toy imaginable. They got drunk every night and sunk a bunch of machinery in the lake. They lost a few quads, and a few motorcycles over the course of a weekend, mostly trying to see how far they could hydroplane stuff out over the water after a dozen or so beers. They had a collision and sunk one of the boats they had, no effort at all to retrieve any of it. At the end of the weekend they just drove off, left a bunch of tents, camping equipment, coolers with beer,liquor and food etc. We thought they would come back with all the stuff they left, but they never did, the park rangers came down and told us we could keep anything we wanted if we cleaned up their site, which we did.

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California has the largest source of water - Pacific ocean !!! . . . why aren't they building desalination plants, utilizing all the "green energy" to power the plants and then pump the fresh water east ??? . . . reduce the draw on the Colorado watershed and let the lakes recover to some degree ??? . . . then be able to continue generating power from the dams . . .

In Israel, they knew they HAD to build the desalination plants in order to live !! . . . sure it costs $$$, but certainly better than having NO water . . . or water rationing . . .

Just my 2cents worth . . .

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They can’t produce enough power now to keep themselves out of ‘brownouts’….now cars are consuming electricity.

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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
They can’t produce enough power now to keep themselves out of ‘brownouts’….now cars are consuming electricity.


They couldn't produce enough electricity to prevent brownouts before the cars started consuming electricity. The car sucking up electricity will just become an additional burden. The reason they can't produce clean fresh water or consistent electricity has nothing to do with cost, or technology, its caused by stupid people, both in the government and out of it.

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How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


Salt water kills most vegetation

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Originally Posted by Sniper
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How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


Salt water kills most vegetation



I figured that but I thought some engineer could come up with a procedure through filtering and dilution so it could become usable and even if they cut down on say 30% of clean water usage it would have to help.


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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


Salt water kills most vegetation

THEN there’s less to catch FIRE

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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


They actually use very little water for fighting fires, more building of fire breaks, fire retardant, back fires... and when water is used it is taken from the nearest source, when the forest service intentionally made a 20 acre lightning fire into a 40,000 acre intentional fire next door to my house last summer they were scooping water between 1/10th and 1/2 mile away, it would take unimaginable resources to build a pool of ocean water reserves even every mile or so everywhere there might be a fire someday.


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
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How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


Salt water kills most vegetation

THEN there’s less to catch FIRE


And the ecosystem goes to hell.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by Sniper
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How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


Salt water kills most vegetation

THEN there’s less to catch FIRE


No….dry dead vegetation becomes an even greater fire hazard.

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I see cost this, cost this on every project but Switzerland is spending over one million dollars per mile to install charging grids in the pavement to charge cars while driving. Lobbyist are already getting geared up to do this in the United States


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Originally Posted by crackedback
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How much clean lake water is consumed every year fighting forest fires. Couldn’t sea water at least be pumped inland for jobs like this.


Salt water kills most vegetation

THEN there’s less to catch FIRE


And the ecosystem goes to hell.

Like it was before humans got there

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Plenty of water in the ocean but that takes POWER to take the salt out. The need for oil is still prevalent to do that job.


I always wondered why they don't pipe that seawater through the Rockies into some Arizona/Utah/New Mexico deserts or into the Cali deserts and into large sealed retention ponds.

Let the sun do the work and ship the salt back to the ocean or sell it.

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Originally Posted by IMGTX
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Plenty of water in the ocean but that takes POWER to take the salt out. The need for oil is still prevalent to do that job.


I always wondered why they don't pipe that seawater through the Rockies into some Arizona/Utah/New Mexico deserts or into the Cali deserts and into large sealed retention ponds.

Let the sun do the work and ship the salt back to the ocean or sell it.


Salt is way too plentiful and cheap to need to do that, it is very cheaply mined or evaporated near oceans to bother with that.


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