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572 B1 engine install #3031133
04/06/22 08:48 AM
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After months of looking for a dyno shop in NC to test my new B1 engine; I just decided to put it in the Daytona and go to a few test and tune sessions.
I got the engine sitting in the car on the mounts (front motor plate and midplate) yesterday.
Other things to do:
- Upgrade fuel pump (I have the new pump)
- Install driveshaft and connect shifter to transmission
- Install radiator, trans cooler
- Fill with fluids
- Modify throttle rod for the +4" height of the new engine/intake
- Make a new hood scoop mount. The scoop mounts to the engine, not the hood.
The added height may not be pretty this year, the scoop may be above the hood. Just so I can race it.

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1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031135
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Headers. 2-1/8 to 2-1/4 primary tubes, 29" long, 4" collectors.

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1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031141
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Looks good Jim. Can't wait to hear the results. Sure wish my garage was that clean.


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Hey Jim, I’d like to read through the thread you posted about fitting your engine to the dyno but I can’t find it. Can you post a link to it here???

TIA


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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031152
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Very nice Jim! Looking forward to the first track results w/ it.


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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: madscientist] #3031162
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Originally Posted by madscientist
Hey Jim, I’d like to read through the thread you posted about fitting your engine to the dyno but I can’t find it. Can you post a link to it here???

TIA
Dyno guy could not hook it up LINK


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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031215
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Originally Posted by 440Jim
Originally Posted by madscientist
Hey Jim, I’d like to read through the thread you posted about fitting your engine to the dyno but I can’t find it. Can you post a link to it here???

TIA
Dyno guy could not hook it up LINK



Thank You


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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031301
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Originally Posted by 440Jim
Other things to do:
- Upgrade fuel pump (I have the new pump)
- Install driveshaft and connect shifter to transmission
- Install radiator, trans cooler
- Fill with fluids
- Modify throttle rod for the +4" height of the new engine/intake
- Make a new hood scoop mount. The scoop mounts to the engine, not the hood.
The added height may not be pretty this year, the scoop may be above the hood. Just so I can race it.

Today, I installed the driveshaft, connected shifter linkage to trans, connected trans brake wires, trans temp wire, and put the headers on.
Kind'a sucks working on the floor under the car, but it is done.

It looks like I got lucky with the hood scoop mount.
My old setup used a 1/2" aluminum "carb spacer" plate with spacers to set the height of the hood scoop dzus fasteners.
It had the dzus spacers on top of the plate, and I just gave it a try putting the same spacers under the plate. It is close !
I may have to adjust those spacers 1/4 to 1/2 inch to set the scoop better, but it went on. The carb will be higher inside the scoop, but I think there will be enough room from the carb to the top of the scoop.

B1_HoodScoop_06Apr2022_post2.jpg

1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031302
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View with the hood in place.

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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031316
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Did you get an aluminum drive shaft or CF?


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I am using the same one that came with the car when I bought it.
Steel, 1350 u-joints, complete Strange Engineering 9" rear.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3031335
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Before lunch, I removed and put a small bend in the heat shield between the brake master cylinder and the header. Give it some air space. Reinstalled. The new headers slope down, the old ones went all the way down then backwards level.

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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3032491
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Here is a strange one...

I put water in my B1 engine tonight and ran the electric water pump to purge air as it circulates.
Just as the pump sounded like it was building a little pressure, I noticed water on top of the valley plate (under the intake manifold).
After drying and repeating a couple times, I was able to isolate it to near the center bolt that secures the valley plate to the head.

Very strange... Anyone ever heard of B1 big block heads hitting water in any of those valley plate threaded bolt holes?
Does that larger round hole above the center connect to water? I am not sure right now if the RB intake spacers cover that.
But the intake gaskets I am using basically sit on top of the valley plate (I cut them to fit) above the valley plate. So it should be covered.

I removed the bolt, and dried it with compressed air. Put RTV on the bolt threads and reinstalled. After curing overnight, I will try running the water pump again tomorrow.

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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3032499
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Wow. Looking great Jim! How far off the ground is the car!?! Looks low and FAST! Nice!


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Sealing that valley plate mounting hole with RTV did nothing.
So, I pulled the intake manifold and that 3/4" dia hole does go to the water jacket. It is drilled pretty deep before hitting water.
Just the very bottom of it was not covered by my intake gasket. Just a sliver shooting water out.
I called Koffel's place and they said that hole is not there from the factory. Surprise, the guy I bought these heads from must have drilled it to modify the water cooling pattern.

I will just plug them and put it back together.

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1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3032573
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That larger hole is for cooling system.

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Re: 572 B1 engine install [Re: 440Jim] #3032663
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Did you do that cooling modification to your B1 heads?
I am guessing this is an alternative way to do the same mod others have done between the exhaust ports. For water return to pump?

I wonder if this was a half finished modification. Since there is no way to connect a fitting, it is just a 0.75" dia hole. No threads, etc.


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I didn’t do it, I bought it that way. I believe the fitting is screwed Into intake flange, I’d have to look. This motor might have hole between exhaust ports also, not sure.

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Is it 0.750 or is it 23/64 diameter? If it is 23/64 then the guy might have drilled it for a 1/2 inch NPT thread but just never got around to tapping it.

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I think it’s a pretty common B1 cooling mod. I also have a low deck B1 sheet metal intake with the same setup. Has a bung welded to the flange and An fitting in the same spot.

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