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Block Repair Help #3030401
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Does anyone know of or has anyone had their block repaired/welded? The number one rod blew and caused damage to the pan rail area close to the left engine mount surface. Part of the pan rail will need welding also. I''m looking for someone knowledgable and with competent skills in this area. It's the original block to my car.
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Re: Block Repair Help [Re: 3_RTs] #3030429
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There’s a guy in Michigan named Rick Petra, third generation, from what I’ve seen does a great job. Don’t have an address he’s on my messenger page and don’t know how to send it to you

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Thanks, Cudaman. I will see if I can make contact with him. If you figure it out, please send any info.

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make sure you find someone with a great reputation for welding cast Iron , to do it correctly it needs to be heated in an oven to a certain temperature and held at that temperature until entire block has reached temperature evenly ,,has to be welded at that temp and heat kept on even keel until repairs are completed , then then cooled in increments over a period of time. saw it done a few times when I was young evidently my memory is as good on exact details as it use to be. Don't just look for car guys for this type of repairs , if possible look to find European or Russian immigrant professional welders as cast iron is a cheaply produced metal widely used in the east and they experts in cast iron repairs. Indy Cylinder head use to do it years ago.


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Re: Block Repair Help [Re: 3_RTs] #3030507
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MPD Welding up here in Orion MI can most likely fix it right up.

http://www.mpdweldinginc.com/


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Re: Block Repair Help [Re: ZIPPY] #3030521
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Welded a numbers matching 440 Six pack for me years ago with terrific results. BAD shape going in, holes, major cracks, rod left the block....still running to this day almost 16 years later. He has the oven and years of practice. Located just south of Indianapolis.
Todd

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Thanks for the replies and suggestions, guys! As this is the numbers matching block to my 70 hemi charger, I want someone that knows their sh*t.


Thanks,

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Originally Posted by 3_RTs
Thanks, Cudaman. I will see if I can make contact with him. If you figure it out, please send any info.


The one I said has all those capabilities mentioned below, using ovens and cooling a little bit over days. Just texted him for his number, got back fast! 708-749-3420

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Re: Block Repair Help [Re: cudaman1969] #3030662
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Thank you Cudaman for getting back to me.

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Have those repairs been welded or brazed? Just looking at the bead color.


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So what did the repair cost?

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This is brazed! If it where my block make sure it is heated and properly stick welded using a strong alloy welding rod.

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Originally Posted by Moparite
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This is brazed! If it where my block make sure it is heated and properly stick welded using a strong alloy welding rod.



I agree, they are both absolutely brazed.


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agree , but Brazing is an acceptable way to repair cast iron.I think its properties are stronger than cast iron.

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I think its properties are stronger than cast iron.


As per google:

Filler Metal and Flux for Braze Welding The filler metal used for most braze welding is a copper alloy containing roughly 60% copper, 40% zinc, and small amounts of tin, iron, manganese, and silicon.

Not as strong as cast iron. It may be "acceptable" but if i where trying the save a rare hemi block i wouldn't be brazing it.

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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
agree , but Brazing is an acceptable way to repair cast iron.I think its properties are stronger than cast iron.

Brazing is very soft and has a different expansion rate than either cast grey iron or ductile iron scope
I had my first 400 block brazed up on the deck between #4 and #6 cylinders due to it blowing a head gasket before I bought it, I couldn't find another block so I had it fixed and had to put two sleeves in those cylinder to make the head gaskets and ring seal right up
I had to put two sleeves in #1 and #7 cylinders also due to rust pitting being to deep to seal up at 4.375 bore size, that block was not a good pick to build realcrazy whiney
it did make a lot of power and lived as long as I had it boogie up


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