Point -> Chief: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuWd_xDbbq8

Counter-point -> Reaper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH5HA_B1kDI

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I just don't like Lizzi's new hair color She looked better as a blond. At least her dad finally de-tuned her combo with a smaller engine.

Gus

I can't hear the audio this time - wants me to log in, which turns into a rabbit hole I haven't the patience for.
Guess I'll just miss out.
But I'm not inclined to believe much of what Reaper says, anyway.
I've actually been enjoying the latest Top 25, and the After Hours show is pretty funny.
I'm aware that "entertainment" will get the nod for production over actual reality, though...

lost intrest in the show a long time ago

Hey with the choices being MSM propaganda, singing shows or rich housewives fighting I'll take the scripted drama laden street racing show every day of the week and twice on Sundays..... You guys got something better to watch?

I do have to admit Jay Jay Daaaa Boss is starting to wear on me though....

I wish I was younger and able to fool around with her, DREAMING (I would love to make her climax 4 or 5 times a night )
I am NOT a dirty old man, just horny

Still have most of the first 2 seasons on dvr…. Like many things racing related, the “good ole days” were better . Crazy how many have dropped off the radar since the cars have gotten so fast.

I watch it when I can on YouTube, as I don't have cable TV.

I don't by in to the drama, we will see how America's List is this year. Of the Street Outlaws franchises, the NPK stuff has been the most enteratining for me.

There is no reality in Reality TV, at least this is entertaining

I like NPK the best. The America's list is also good since they got rid of if you lose calling back out. Now if they would get rid of chase is a race! Sick of JJ and his family claiming to be poor street racers when most of his car are procharged Hemis. It would be nice to have more info on cars, but car guys are not there audience. I watched Gone Girl a couple times but only thing good about that was Lizzy.

Same here; that's how I came across those vids and I haven't even seen the episodes they talk about.

Too much stupid BS. The list "racing" is retarded. Like last year when Axeman hid like a little girl from Kye.
Then there's fastest in America when they throw a curveball for the finals to assure JJ wins. I have to watch Memphis on mute. Apparently they all failed English/grammar in school.

I know many find it boring but support your local track...

I don't watch any of the shows on TV anymore but Shawn (MurderNova) and Phantom's 187 Customs Youtube channel is very entertaining!

It really gives you a glimpse into what they go through to prepare for doing both the list races and the No Pre Kings stuff. It's a LOT of work and a LOT of travel.

Having two cars, a huge semi and trailer and all the extra parts and pieces it takes (engines and transmissions) it is crazy how much money these guys are spending in a year!

I've never made it through an entire episode.

every single reality show on tv is scripted and done with multiple takes. if you guys think any "reality" show is real... You are the demographic that the producer is looking for. Its all about the drama and storyline just like pro wrestling....which is real.

He's seen "Smokey" too many times and thinks he's Jerry Reed.

^^^ ! Perfect description !

They showed a brief teaser last week of the Hummingbird on fire, so I presume tonight's episode will show the crash between JJ and Tricia. They were both hospitalized and I don't think either of them have driven a car since the middle of January. Maybe when he comes back JJ will start wearing a fire suit and gloves.

Hummingbird is still being raced and was shortly after their incident. It aint pretty and probably not so safe but its still alive.

I'm sure that the producers take hundreds of hours of video and condense it down to a show using the best material. But scripted? I listen to some of the conversations and they seem to be contemporaneous. And watching Lutz barrel roll his car...I bet that wasn't scripted.