Absolutely NO on the car.
Absolutely NO on staying at your place, even one night. Especially if your not going to be there!
Absolutely NO on helping him with his mess. It sounds like he has earned everything he has.
I see a retired Lawyer looking to take advantage of, most likely, another unsuspecting helpful person. I suspect he has done this before, probably why he had a falling out with the pastor. A con man with legal knowledge and a week in your house without you being there will have you coming home to nothing, and you will never get the house back (or you wouldn't want it if you could get it back). I hope it works out for you.

Absolutely. Call the sons and have a Come To Jesus conversation with them.

- BUT his sons aren't helping much? Other family members?

Those are all signs of a very "difficult" and toxic person. A person that others avoid, even family members. I bet he's been "difficult" for a long time.

Now that he's out of the house, you need to "get ready for your long trip". Don't tell this person when you will be back from Florida. And don't call him first when you come back.


"You reap what you sow", is a saying. Make sure to tell others about this guys story to get the message across...Be careful not to you lead you life like a difficult PITA, or you'll be sh!tt!ng on your deathbed all alone.

no good deed goes unpunished.

as a retired lawyer he knows what he is doing and taking advantage of you. he sounds like a toxic person and probably doesn't have many friends.
give him a deadline to be out and stick to it. have him call his son to pick him up then say-la-v-lavern.

just a FYI. if a unlicensed person gets into a car crash there won't be any insurance on the car. even if there is a valid policy on the car.
i am no insurance expert. the ins co might cover damages on what the car hits. but there probably won't be any coverage on the car he was driving.
i have seen this multiple times on wrecks towed into the body shop i work at.

“moving to California”….. can’t hide money!

You all are the best!

He spent the night in a motel last night.

Word is… he will be in a plane to California today.

Yes, he has two sons in California. Evidently, very strained (if any) relations with one, OK with the other.

He is around 80 years old, and reminds me a LOT of my deceased father (95).

I loved my Dad dearly, yet in those final years… he could become spontaneously abrasive, and other times unintentionally humorous..

I was riding backseat yesterday, wife driving, attorney riding shotgun.

Listening to his banter, I’m like: MY GOD! DAD’s BACK!

Have to look for that heart of gold, that you know is still inside.

These folks in their late elderly stages… so very hard on so many levels.

But, hopefully this guy is at 35,000 feet.

Will post when I’m sure…

first guy i thought about was Saul Goodman.

Yes but whatever their relationship, unless the old man is a total ####### they stand to inherit his wealth, not you, therefore its their mess to clean up. Its literally the least they can do, glad to hear he's on his way out there.

You dodged a bullet. tbh I thought this was going to drag out and get uglier.

When I was a kid our parents let some family store all their stuff in our garage (for free) "for two weeks" until they got a new place. Six months later we were putting it out on the curb and they were cursing at us and threatening us.

I was probably 8 years old but learned a lesson for a lifetime. Screwups are always looking for some sucker to sign up to be their next victim. Don't sign!

Cometstorm,

Just in case change your locks on your doors. a missing house key is just that. no need to come home to a new room mate!!

Good luck and enjoy your vacation.

I would do my bet Doyle Hargraves impression , pretending he was Karl Childers and / or Vaughn Cunningham in the film classic " Sling Blade" .
G.T.F.O. !!!!
I got no problem being a nice guy , but a little gratitude sure makes it easier.

Elvis has left the State!

lol. "What are you doing with that lawnmower blade"?

Next step is to sit down with the wife and read her the riot act ... don't EVER pull that sh!t again !!!

Oh, you can COUNT on it!

I'll disagree, as she was trying to be kind and helpful. BUT I do think a normal conversation regarding the potential issues being kind and heelpful to that degree can cause. I would also ASK that she converse with you first on a major decision (like this one), and that you both agree before an action takes place. Again she was only trying to help

You kinda have no grounds to jump her azz as you agreed to let him in when asked. Best to say nothing, she knows and will likely bring the subject up herself at some point, and a wow WE learned something there . All you need to do in the future is smile and never agree again.

TJP, 4406BBL don't tell him to be understanding and reasonable. Otherwise we wont get to read his next post titled, "Guys I need help, I'm in a pickle spot with my wife" LOL

I agree with TJP & 4406bbl, I think your wife probably feels the same as you and probably won't do this again. Both of you were trying to be kind and helpful but got blindsided by a situation you didn't expect. Kudo's for being good people and glad it worked out as well as it did.

I put in my vote for saying nothing until something like this creeps up again and then I would say, "Babe this is looking too much like that lawyer guy that almost left us with a big mess. Maybe we should steer clear of it this time."

On a side note, I have learned to say no to loaning my vehicles under questionable circumstances.i.e. like no license. I'm glad you didn't do it. I had a friend who would borrow my big truck on occasions. One time I notices some scratches on the side and mentioned it to him. He said he didn't remember hitting anything but a woman claimed he hit her car so he ignored her and walked off. I later found out that he has gone blind in one eye, that particular side in fact. I have no problem telling him no now. I told him politely I can't risk him being in an accident with a big truck loaded with stuff. He understands and we are still great friends. I will help him if he really needs something hauled. Not worth the risk.

Don’t Be A Solution To Someone Else’s Problem(s).


Jim

Great input points everyone.

Yes, what’s done is done…and will be considered a life learning moment.

No reason to carry it forward by discussing points that are now learned by us both.

Let sleeping dogs lay…