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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: HemiSportFury] #3024741
03/17/22 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiSportFury
Originally Posted by wingman
Originally Posted by moparx
i'm all for making it permanent ! up boogie
but if it gets signed into law, why wait until next year ? shruggy
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Because there are millions of software updates that will have to be made, schedules to be changed, etc. Will take some time.
Just watch. The IT guys will turn this into another Y2K.

Couple of questions: If we stay on Daylight Savings time all year, what happens to the hour we lost? Do we all just lose an hour of our lives?

Concerning the 9/10ths and gas tax, when will EVs start paying for the roads they drive on? This one is a real issue and the politicians aren't so dumb that they don't know this. They want us to buy the cars first and then will figure out how to tax us.


In Indiana at least, EV's pay through the nose in license plate fees every year. That's because they don't pay fuel taxes.


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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: John Brown] #3024834
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"In Indiana at least, EV's pay through the nose in license plate fees every year. That's because they don't pay fuel taxes."


how is this tag fee calculated ? average fuel consumption of X brand,Y model, times Z average miles driven per year by the average citizen ?
or just an arbitrary number picked out of the sky by a governmental genius ?
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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: DaveRS23] #3024848
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I hope it passes. Always Seemed to prefer daylight savings time.


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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: wingman] #3024851
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Originally Posted by wingman
Originally Posted by moparx
i'm all for making it permanent ! up boogie
but if it gets signed into law, why wait until next year ? shruggy
beer


Because there are millions of software updates that will have to be made, schedules to be changed, etc. Will take some time.



i never thought about that angle. thanks for pointing that out. up
and as was mentioned, probably another Y2K moment for some folks. laugh2
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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: moparx] #3024859
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Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by wingman
Originally Posted by moparx
i'm all for making it permanent ! up boogie
but if it gets signed into law, why wait until next year ? shruggy
beer


Because there are millions of software updates that will have to be made, schedules to be changed, etc. Will take some time.



i never thought about that angle. thanks for pointing that out. up
and as was mentioned, probably another Y2K moment for some folks. laugh2
beer


I don't know about mainframes, but for windows all they have to do is delete the applet that tells it to change the time on whatever date it is. Everytime they've changed the DST implementation date, MS and all the linux distros incorporate the change into their regular updates. Our Durango and 300 get their time from the GPS satellites, I think? No idea what's involved with that.


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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: John Brown] #3024861
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Originally Posted by John Brown



In Indiana at least, EV's pay through the nose in license plate fees every year. That's because they don't pay fuel taxes.


Define pay thru the nose. According to this site, it's $150/year not quite thru the nose and doubtful it covers it's share of road usage.

https://www.myev.com/research/inter...e-extra-fees-to-own-an-electric-vehicle.

When I lived in Indiana there was a excise tax each year on vehicles, one reason I never went back.

Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: JohnRR] #3024892
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by wingman
There's only so much daylight regardless of what the clock says--especially in the wintertime.

It comes down to do you want to be driving to work in the dark or coming home in the dark?


Exactly , here in the northeast it will mean in January the sunrise won't happen till after 8AM before it starts getting earlier .

I'm all for stopping the nonsense of changing the clocks back and forth but they should maybe make it a half hour from what the real GMT is and call it good ??



No one thinks out that far. They only think of the immediate positives and not the potential negatives. Sun rising at 8AM in the winter will be super depressing for me.

Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: HemiSportFury] #3024916
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Originally Posted by HemiSportFury
If we stay on Daylight Savings time all year, what happens to the hour we lost? Do we all just lose an hour of our lives?


Finally when you say ... there's an hour of my life I'll never get back ... it's actually true


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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: JohnRR] #3024925
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by HemiSportFury
If we stay on Daylight Savings time all year, what happens to the hour we lost? Do we all just lose an hour of our lives?


Finally when you say ... there's an hour of my life I'll never get back ... it's actually true



Not really…we’re all going to live an hour longer.

Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: njmopar] #3024947
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No one thinks out that far. They only think of the immediate positives and not the potential negatives. Sun rising at 8AM in the winter will be super depressing for me. [/quote]


I grew up in a small town in Vermont, in a north/south valley.

In winter time, the sun was setting for us around 3:00 pm, man those days dragged by. An extra hour of daylight in the afternoon would have been nice, though the days would have still been short.


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Id love it to be lighter longer in the evening, more time to do stuff outside. I don't care if it's dark a bit longer in the morning.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: JohnRR] #3026650
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by HemiSportFury
If we stay on Daylight Savings time all year, what happens to the hour we lost? Do we all just lose an hour of our lives?


Finally when you say ... there's an hour of my life I'll never get back ... it's actually true



Elderly people with Dementia do not adapt well to the time change twice a year.

I have seen this myself, and Hospice workers agree it causes widespread problems.

This is on top of serious problems at nursing homes on the 11 PM to 7 AM shift where frequent staffing absentee problems result in the lights being left on and widespread noise from a few patients leading to most patients never getting “deep sleep.”

Lack of sleep is one reason 50% of nursing home residents die within six months, and 80% die within a year.

Re: Daylight Savings Time may become permanent [Re: 360view] #3026654
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doesn't matter to me either way. i don't have any problem with the time changes.
i remember when J Carter extended DST during the gas crunch in the 70's.
i didn't care for waiting for the morning school buss in the dark .it made things colder than they should have been. it sucked sitting in sub 0 temps with no sun.


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