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I just bought a 1965 coronet 440 and have no idea on what transmission variation I have as I am new to this car. It has a wheel adjustment instead of lever for gear selection and some kind of cable going from floor shifter towards back of transmission. I attached pics.

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That's a pushbutton transmission. The first pic it the park cable. The second pic is the RND2L cable

Does it have a flange or a slip yoke on the tailshaft?

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a flange will have the ball and trunion front U-joint. last year for that used with a 727 would be 64 with pushbutton or floor shifter.
the common slip yoke 727 appeared in 65, but with the pushbutton style valve body, using two cables as was shown in the preceding pics. column shifter and floor shifter, both.
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Here is a photo of the tailshaft and thank you all for the info. Super helpful. Now the question is I can select prnd2 but not low.. can this be adjusted?

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Ok, you have the 65 version, not sure how that works as mine were 64 and earlier. They had a lever for park, and pushbuttons for the rest. The dash mechanism was mechanically interlocked to put the button in N when you activated the park lever.

Is this a console shifter setup?

Ordinarily I would point you to https://mymopar.com/service-manuals/ for a FSM, but they skip over the 65 Dodge, they do have the 65 Plymouth if that might work?

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is your car a floor or column shift ?
if floor shift, i "think" the adjustment for the 64 floor shift is the same as your 65.
i can copy the procedure from the 64 FSM in a PDF file and send to your.
if that will work for you, PM me your E-mail address, and i will send you this file.
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It’s is a floor shifter

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Ok, you have the 65 version, not sure how that works as mine were 64 and earlier. They had a lever for park, and pushbuttons for the rest. The dash mechanism was mechanically interlocked to put the button in N when you activated the park lever.

Is this a console shifter setup?

Ordinarily I would point you to https://mymopar.com/service-manuals/ for a FSM, but they skip over the 65 Dodge, they do have the 65 Plymouth if that might work?


65 dodge and plymouth for most mechanical should be the same .


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after looking at the 65 manual posted in Sniper's link, the adjustment procedure for the 65 floor shifter is the same as the 64 floor shifter.
page 21-56 covers the shifter and console, pages 21-57 and 21-58 cover the cable adjustments.
they are the same for both Dodge and Plymouth.
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Ok, you have the 65 version, not sure how that works as mine were 64 and earlier. They had a lever for park, and pushbuttons for the rest. The dash mechanism was mechanically interlocked to put the button in N when you activated the park lever.

Is this a console shifter setup?

Ordinarily I would point you to https://mymopar.com/service-manuals/ for a FSM, but they skip over the 65 Dodge, they do have the 65 Plymouth if that might work?


65 dodge and plymouth for most mechanical should be the same .


I thought as much, but with Ma you can never tell. My 4 300 was originally a stick car but the old lady whined about not knowing how to drive a stick and not wanting to learn, so I put in a PB setup and then she was like "it's too big to drive". Anyway, retrofitting the automatic got me real familiar with how the shifter setup worked.

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On a side note: The manual valve and rooster comb are different between the pushbutton and floor shift valve bodies wink

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also you have the wrong transmission mount, the cable shift one's are totally different that a std one. you can see someone tried to make the wrong one work. you can still buy the correct one. Mega Parts or Mancini should have it.

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I have the wrong cable going from shifter to the transmission at the thumbwheel?

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Originally Posted by Joebell1974
I have the wrong cable going from shifter to the transmission at the thumbwheel?

i don't think anyone indicated or said that wink

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Imperial Services:
http://imperialservices.net/Bparts.html

Adjustment procedure:
https://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/transtech.html

Those transmissions also have the rear trans fluid pump.
If rebuilding, make sure the correct kit is used.

Be careful with the park cable clamp. Had one that was seized up real bad.




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'65's are cable operated transmissions but the non-console versions were not pushbutton. The '65 transmission was a transition between the cable operated pushbutton/trunion style of the '64 and the handle operated/slip yoke style of the '66. It retained the cable operation using a convention shift lever for the column versions and dropped the trunion.

Attached PDF document
1965 Shift Linkage.pdf (24 downloads)

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