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Cal trac copy traction bars #3021140
03/05/22 09:33 PM
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Has anyone tried these traction bars out?? https://www.ebay.com/itm/175140285025



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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Otherlane] #3021156
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Calvert has patents. popcorn


In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: GomangoCuda] #3021158
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So that means no you havent?

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Otherlane] #3021162
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That is correct. I have used the real ones for 20 years and the ones you linked look and probably function exactly the same. But, do they have the same quality rod ends and tubing? Don't know.

In my first response I was suggesting that they may not be available for long.


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: GomangoCuda] #3021163
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Made in China and company has lousy feedback. When it comes to suspension I want quality and safe parts. Your life depends on it.

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: stumpy] #3021164
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Originally Posted by stumpy
Made in China and company has lousy feedback. When it comes to suspension I want quality and safe parts. Your life depends on it.
iagree Think about what is important, saving a few dollars or your life shruggy work
I like ladder bars and four link now up
I have helped NHRA Stock class racers set world class records with leaf springs only before John Calvert and another Father and Son team from Lancaster, CA were both developing that system and the same time.
John ended up making his company to sell those bars while he continued to work full time for the U.S. Government up bow


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Cab_Burge] #3021172
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I can’t see where they would be so life threatening, they push the heim joints and they are or could be the weak link. Are the welds good? If not 1/4” steel that would be the only other problem. Basically the Chinese could make them identical to Calverts but pay the guy making them $2.50 to sell them that cheap and still make a tidy profit. The Chinese have good machinery they just don’t have to pay union wages

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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: cudaman1969] #3021191
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
I can’t see where they would be so life threatening, they push the heim joints and they are or could be the weak link. Are the welds good? If not 1/4” steel that would be the only other problem. Basically the Chinese could make them identical to Calverts but pay the guy making them $2.50 to sell them that cheap and still make a tidy profit. The Chinese have good machinery they just don’t have to pay union wages


If the front mount, or the front heim breaks, and the front of the bar drops down, you have an incredibly dangerous scenario. Is that any more likely than a real caltrac setup? I don’t know.

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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3021201
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$ 265 or $389, 124$ difference, NO WAY would I get the cheaper copies


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: CSK] #3021219
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The company is out of Texas. They build to order.


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3021232
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Basically the Chinese could make them identical to Calverts but pay the guy making them $2.50 to sell them that cheap and still make a tidy profit. The Chinese have good machinery they just don’t have to pay union wages


If the front mount, or the front heim breaks, and the front of the bar drops down, you have an incredibly dangerous scenario. Is that any more likely than a real caltrac setup? I don’t know.


NO offense meant to you but peoples thinking on the "cheaper" chinese product is exactly what has gotten this country in a position the be dependent on them. Now consider their ties to Russia and the current situation whistling

And should any part of that system break during launch or hard acceleration you now have a siutuion where the vehicle may unexpectedly make a hard right or left twocents beer

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: dart4forte] #3021235
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Originally Posted by dart4forte
The company is out of Texas. They build to order.


The Ebay info say

Location China


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: CSK] #3021244
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The extra money for the Calvert's would be well worth the great support.

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: CSK] #3021253
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Originally Posted by csk
Originally Posted by dart4forte
The company is out of Texas. They build to order.


The Ebay info say

Location China


Location of SELLER is China, per SELLER information, though to be honest I doubt they are selling US made product from a China location. The actual AD itself says NJ. Not sure where TX came into play.

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: 340Cuda] #3021263
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
The extra money for the Calvert's would be well worth the great support.


THIS /\ I've had a set for years. The help they gave setting them up was invaluable. Also, I ordered the wrong size eye bushing, my fault. They sent me the right ones for free.


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: slantzilla] #3021281
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For a streetcar i think it will be ok, i will find out.

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Otherlane] #3021282
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Not cracking wise, but if it's a street car, save even more and get a cheap pair of Lakewood bolt on slapper bars. They will work just as well.


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Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3021284
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
I can’t see where they would be so life threatening, they push the heim joints and they are or could be the weak link. Are the welds good? If not 1/4” steel that would be the only other problem. Basically the Chinese could make them identical to Calverts but pay the guy making them $2.50 to sell them that cheap and still make a tidy profit. The Chinese have good machinery they just don’t have to pay union wages


If the front mount, or the front heim breaks, and the front of the bar drops down, you have an incredibly dangerous scenario. Is that any more likely than a real caltrac setup? I don’t know.


The front eye of spring is still attached in same place, no where to go but bars still being attached on other side would give a dangerous ride. If bubble gum welds be wary. Both heims and tube are in compression, not stretching, solid joints would work fine. The two areas of my concern are the struts on u-bolt plate and the tube in front that pulls down on spring.

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: cudaman1969] #3021337
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We made our own after a friend bought a set. Really the only thing we copied directly was the pivot. It's pretty easy to make the rest with tubing, spacers, flat stock and heim ends. We have less than $100 in materials in them.

I do have Calvert split mono springs and, up to last year ran their single adjustable shock.

It's not rocket science. Lots of other products out there with their own take on this. The Assassin bars are just one example.

They do work well as we've been 1.36 60 ft. with a 275 drag radial and 3,700 lbs. street car.

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10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Cal trac copy traction bars [Re: GY3] #3021345
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Pics of us putting them together...

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'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

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