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Thread lock on cam gear bolts? #3014203
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Which thread locker you guys using on cam gear bolts or is it needed?

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: mopar dave] #3014206
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I always use blue loctite.

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: rickraw] #3014211
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Red for me.


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: pittsburghracer] #3014239
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Blue for me. But I have only stock, or slightly warmed over, engines.


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: 6PakBee] #3014256
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I have always used blue, but seen others using red. Thought i would post it up here to see. I never had anything come loose using blue. Thanks

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: mopar dave] #3014261
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BLUE

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: cl440] #3014289
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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: VernMotor] #3014298
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But then again I use red on transmission pan bolts, converter bolts, axle studs, and my breakfast cereal too. Lol πŸ˜‚


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: VernMotor] #3014312
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Originally Posted by VernMotor
RED

iagree


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: pittsburghracer] #3014365
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


But then again I use red on transmission pan bolts, converter bolts, axle studs, and my breakfast cereal too. Lol πŸ˜‚



what does it make your cereal taste like ? does it make you "CooCoo for CocoPuffs" ? biggrin
beer

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: moparx] #3014377
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Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


But then again I use red on transmission pan bolts, converter bolts, axle studs, and my breakfast cereal too. Lol πŸ˜‚



what does it make your cereal taste like ? does it make you "CooCoo for CocoPuffs" ? biggrin
beer



It’s kinda bland on cereal but when it drips off a converter bolt right into your mouth it makes you kinda tite-lipped.


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: W.I.N. Racing] #3014385
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Originally Posted by W.I.N. racing
Originally Posted by VernMotor
RED

iagree

I use red until I broke off one bolt on a 3 bolt cam trying to change the ILC, whiney
I use blue now up


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: mopar dave] #3014437
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Have used BLUE in the past, but now I picked up some ORANGE and used on my oil pan studs (hated the thought of these things backing out on me with the engine already installed in the car).

So I'm actually contemplating using ORANGE for the cam bolt now.

Also, speaking of using thread-lock (not meaning to hijack the thread '@mopar dave'): are you guys using anything on the oil pump pickup-to-pump body?

I haven't used anything before, but now it feels like I should...???

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: pittsburghracer] #3014499
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You want to be sure it doesn't come apart on its own. What is the torque spec on those bolts? Gonna see what i can get done tomorrow. I need to get cam button installed and set up for clearance(what claerance do you guys like between button and cover?) Need to check piston/valve clearance and map cam lobes as well. Would be nice to get all the new springs installed too, but i doubt i get that far.

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: mopar dave] #3015150
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How about safety wire? Seems to be popular on aircraft parts... work

Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: mopar dave] #3015156
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On cam end play have .015 to maybe .030, any more than that look at the oil pump drive gear real closely twocents
My 1969 FSM calls for 35 Ft lbs. on the 3 bolt cam bolts in the Hemi motors up That is what i use on all my 3/8 cam bolts wrench


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: DrCharles] #3015157
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Originally Posted by DrCharles
How about safety wire? Seems to be popular on aircraft parts... work

the cam rotates clockwise which trys to tighten those bolts , not loosen them work scope


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3015263
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My experience. Never had trouble getting anything apart with red. A little propane heat if if its really stuck. My Will wood rotor were safety wired to the hubs. They were also supposed to be attached with Locktite red. These had been in use for years. On the hoist one day my son bumped the tire causing it to rotate just slightly. I noticed the rotor lagged behind. This hub did not have locktite. It was only safety wired. The bolts and wire had stretched slightly. The wire kept the bolts from falling out. But it did not keep them from coming loose. All bolts were torqued during assembly. New bolts, locktite and safety wire now.
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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: mopar dave] #3015271
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Red loctite here.


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Re: Thread lock on cam gear bolts? [Re: Diplomat360] #3015622
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Originally Posted by Diplomat360
Have used BLUE in the past, but now I picked up some ORANGE and used on my oil pan studs (hated the thought of these things backing out on me with the engine already installed in the car).

So I'm actually contemplating using ORANGE for the cam bolt now.

Also, speaking of using thread-lock (not meaning to hijack the thread '@mopar dave'): are you guys using anything on the oil pump pickup-to-pump body?

I haven't used anything before, but now it feels like I should...???


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The new and improved Blue

Or is it the new and improved Red

Are you afraid to use Red Thread locker, but need a product stronger than Blue. Permatex has developed a 1-of-akin product that combines the high strength of Red Thread locker, with the removability of Blue Thread locker. Introducing High Strength Removable Orange Thread locker. With 3 x the strength of Blue Thread locker, this hybrid formula is great for high vibration applications and will not loosen or back out over time.


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