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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: Neil] #3009154
01/26/22 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil
I drain mine by letting them sit overnight and then put the drain plug, filter, and new oil back in the next morning. Longer drain time allows more of the dirty oil to get out.

Get my oil from a bulk distributor by the case as it's much cheaper than buying individual bottles from the parts stores now.
Bingo. Long drain time is the key IMO. Overnight and then back level too and more comes out. Jack back up and here comes some more oil. Then I run a half quart of clean oil through to wash bottom of pan. Cheap insurance.

The rest depends on what car, as already mentioned. My '89 Diplomat has no belly pan so I roll a single floor jack up front to and am able to hit a center piece of the K frame, jack it up, and put a jack stand on each side and still have plenty of room to move around. I have a remote filter right up front with steel braided lines that then go to the engine oil cooler.


My Charger is much different. Belly pan, much lower to ground, different jack points.


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: larrymopar360] #3009157
01/26/22 12:51 PM
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What about removing the oil fill cap when draining oil to help assist draining the old oil? I never heard of that until recently and now I do remove the cap. But does it really help at all?
I don't need to make changing oil a 2 day affair, I just drain the oil, carefully hand thread the plug back in then snug it down with a wrench, move the pan over to under the oil filter, remove and replace it, and then lower car and add fresh oil. Start up, check for pressure and leaks, then reset the change oil dash light if so equipped, and off I go.
I change my oil and filter at recommended intervals and after 40 years of owning cars and changing my own oil I've never had an engine problem or oil burner (knock wood).

Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: Mastershake340] #3009169
01/26/22 01:13 PM
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You're right, just drain it white it's hot, no need to let it drip all night (it won't anyway). Since using the vacuum setup I think it actually gets out a little more oil than the plug, remember there's a nut welded inside the pan, the oil isn't jumping over that.


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: 3hundred] #3009182
01/26/22 01:31 PM
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and be sure to view the "stelantis denies the 19k warranty" thread. biggrin
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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: Sniper] #3009286
01/26/22 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Ramos, you better make sure you teach your son how to properly use them. I was doing an oil change on my daughter's car, had her drive it up the ramps and right off. I neglected to instruct her on how to use ramps properly. Good news is that lesson will never be forgotten.
This is why I've never been crazy about ramps. It can a bit difficult getting on them and stopping just right.


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: larrymopar360] #3009288
01/26/22 03:57 PM
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I'm telling you, I've gotten 1/4 quart more oil out after it's finished dripping jacked up, after I drop my Charger back down and it starts dripping again, then I put it back up and it drips some more. I can't explain it, I just know it happens. Oil is warm. I start my change in morning and finish in evening on a day off when I'm not needing car. I'm not saying it's a "must do" just my way, and I refill with 7 quarts as is the named capacity, and it's always right on the Full line.


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: larrymopar360] #3009293
01/26/22 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
I'm telling you, I've gotten 1/4 quart more oil out after it's finished dripping jacked up, after I drop my Charger back down and it starts dripping again, then I put it back up and it drips some more. I can't explain it, I just know it happens. Oil is warm. I start my change in morning and finish in evening on a day off when I'm not needing car. I'm not saying it's a "must do" just my way, and I refill with 7 quarts as is the named capacity, and it's always right on the Full line.


shruggy

I remember when the oil filter was an every other oil change recommendation from the factory. I think the Fram commercials is what got it changed?

Now Sarah is beyond anal, she'd pull the pan and have it blasted and powder coated...



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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: 3hundred] #3009325
01/26/22 06:18 PM
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Well....you may have seen my pics of the oil pan in my Police Charger when I first got it.

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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: larrymopar360] #3009326
01/26/22 06:20 PM
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It'll never look that way again. I won't be idling it for thousands of hours, and won't be using cheap oils lacking detergent, and I will be "washing" the pan before refilling with fresh oil up

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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: 6PakBee] #3009351
01/26/22 07:01 PM
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I cheated. I went to Craigslist and bought a 2 post lift I only have to go about 80 feet from my family room to my detached garage and put my truck on the lift and walk under it and work on whatever I want just like I was doing it at work.
I have a 16 gallon roll around oil drain, when the telltale outside tube gets full I put it on one leg of the lift and raise it up, drain it into 5 gallon pourable jugs and take those to work and dump them into our tanks there. Easy to get rid of the oil.
Back when I was a kid our neighbors had purple lilacs bordering our driveway which my dad could not stand. But they were the neighbor's, not ours/ That part of our driveway along the lilacs was gravel, when I was the youngest I can remember dad and my brother used to just pull the plug in the gravel, then dad got the idea to catch the oil and dump it into the lilacs. Those were some pretty hearty plants, the oil didn't faze them.

Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: larrymopar360] #3009356
01/26/22 07:15 PM
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To me, at least, it seems that the weak link in this new 10,000 mile oil change schedule is or are the oil filters. Can an oil filter actually last two to three times longer in doing a good job than it used to for 4,000 to 5,000 mile oil changes of the past? When I did an oil change at 4k-5k or even less the oil filter was pretty marginal to bad. I haven't seen too much improvement in standard (OE) base line oil filters at all. Still the same old, same old oil filter tech IMO. Maybe the oil filters should still be changed instead of the oil at half distance to the oil change intervals? Would cost you a little less than a quart and that second "free" oil filter deal of the 5qt auto parts sale.

Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: A12] #3009363
01/26/22 07:32 PM
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I cheated like volaredon and made it as easy as possible for myself.

Side benefit it's good for a much, much more than just oil changes!


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: A12] #3009489
01/27/22 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by A12
To me, at least, it seems that the weak link in this new 10,000 mile oil change schedule is or are the oil filters. Can an oil filter actually last two to three times longer in doing a good job than it used to for 4,000 to 5,000 mile oil changes of the past? When I did an oil change at 4k-5k or even less the oil filter was pretty marginal to bad. I haven't seen too much improvement in standard (OE) base line oil filters at all. Still the same old, same old oil filter tech IMO. Maybe the oil filters should still be changed instead of the oil at half distance to the oil change intervals? Would cost you a little less than a quart and that second "free" oil filter deal of the 5qt auto parts sale.


Yes people who go 10,000 miles between changes should pay up for an appropriate filter or do as you suggested and change their standard filter way before 10k miles. However almost all new cars and most old cars consume oil. Nobody monitors this. Nobody keeps their engines religiously topped off. Shops pull in a truck and drain 1 quart of oil out of a 6 plus quart capacity pan. The filters I buy in bulk- Champion I believe state they are a 3-5k mileage filter. This works for me as I change my oil at 3000 miles.


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: 2boltmain] #3009553
01/27/22 12:29 PM
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I agree, never go long intervals. I would never go to bulk oil change place either.


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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: larrymopar360] #3009556
01/27/22 12:40 PM
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i just wish my garage had room for a lift. it only has an 8ft ceiling.
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Re: Oil Change Setup [Re: moparx] #3009673
01/27/22 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by moparx
i just wish my garage had room for a lift. it only has an 8ft ceiling.
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Same here! Drooling over that setup (and car) up


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