I’ll be attending…. Of course only being 2hrs away helps. I race so I’ve never been to “the Fling” to watch grass grow

I agree with Jay lol, for the 1st time in yrs my junk is currently running, but that is long haul for me to test to get it dialed in and hope it stays running. I'm not into that town at all but staying at the track would fix that for me too. Hmmmmm

Water being in the situation it is out west you won’t have to worry much about grass growing, the bigger issue will be keeping it from becoming a dust bowl. Sure hope things change

The grass grows well out here, make no mistake.

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I was just looking at pics and videos from Fall Fling this year and the grass was patchy, plenty of dirt spots, or so it appeared.

Fall can be that way since there’s a summer of activity and no rain.

But our Spring show is right after winter/spring rains and less use of park. Grass is almost always better.

It was really dry this summer for Fall Fling, but it wasn’t that bad. The pine tree needles don’t let much grass grow. And there’s lots of trees out there. Show side is better then swap.

Anyone that bitchez about cars shows after being through what we have the last 2 years....needs a kick to the crotch.
Shows are happening again. Who complains about site conditions?
I wish that this Vegas show was a bigger deal. I was at the 2004 and 2005 shows but haven't been back since. Drag racing is okay but not enough to pull me in. I heard that later they had autocross events, Dodge Hellcats doing laps, etc.....THAT sounds like a lot more fun to me.
A lot of the appeal still comes from the swap meet though. How is it that the shows back east have so many more parts and vendors? The cars out west didn't decay like the rust belt cars. I wish I knew why west coast shows can't draw in as many people.

- Location can play a factor. Travel, available accommodations, safety, and venue grounds may all be considered.
- As mentioned, MATS and GG Scottsdale are the same days, considering the draw coming to Phoenix from SoCal for the GG show It appears if these shows were staggered the turnout may be better
-Also mentioned has been population density and vendor location. Consider that vendors are more apt to commit travel to a well populated show and it becomes an easier business decision, where their likelihood of profit after cost must be considered.
- And finally, many, even on this thread, talk of the glory days and how MATS has degraded, Many haven’t been in years, some state this may be their last trip. Those endorsements don’t exactly exhibit the same enthusiasm as the comments seen on a Carlisle or Nats thread, and result in less hype that would draw folks into making the commitment to attend, particularly with distances between folks in the SW

I also love the swap meet portion of any show. It's my favorite part. My favorite part of the hobby in general has always been the thrill of the chase for the car and for parts.

I do the shows for the sway meets. I did Carlisle for 10 years, the Monster show in St. Louis for 12 years and the NATS for 8 years. You can't really compare Carlisle to any other show. Carlisle Events does this for a living and they are in a class all by themselves. The last few years that I was at the Nats that show was on the decline. Swap was getting smaller each year. Monster was a fun show but it finally busted. Topeka KS had a good show but it too busted.
It is also hard to compare the Western shows with the Eastern shows. The shows back east do better cause that is where all the people are. Other than CA there isn't crap for people out here compared to back east. Hell most cities back east have more people than most of the STATES out west, except for CA of course.
I think one of the downfalls of the MATS is the cost. Out of the 10-15 shows a year that I did the MATS was/is the most expensive gate fee wise. 110.00 for a swap spot compared to other shows 35-45.00 fee. Entry is 85.00 for the weekend per person compared to other shows at 25-35.00. Then there is that Vegas is in the middle of nowhere. The early years the Vegas scene brought in a lot people from Europe and Canada but that wore off after a few years. The early years were a blast. Big O' party in the desert. The Autocross is pretty cool. It used to be setup next to the swap so I got to watch it all day. Now it is setup clear at the north end out by itself.
As I said it is really sad to see this show decline like it has.
My 3800sqft. spot at Carlisle.

I'm all set using my non-used tickets from 2020. I called in and actually spoke with Mr. Painter. I was blown away. He told to spread the word for others to attend as if the attendance this year is not large enough, it will be the last one. We need to support this guy.

Nope, Vegas is fun, red rock canyon is great, Hoover dam is cool! There are much better events however!

So it looks like there will be 5 or 6 of us. Outa be a hoot.