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What a Waste #3002823
01/07/22 11:14 AM
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Re: What a Waste [Re: dart4forte] #3002825
01/07/22 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dart4forte


On the "advice of their lawyers" no doubt.


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Re: What a Waste [Re: dart4forte] #3002828
01/07/22 11:37 AM
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It's a win win for GM.

Insurance pays for the loss, the loss creates a perceived shortage which drives up the cost. Not to mention free advertising and they can tell everyone that they won't sell a less than perfect car. At least one that wasn't deliberately engineered to be less than perfect and have problems they created.

Re: What a Waste [Re: wingman] #3002831
01/07/22 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wingman
On the "advice of their lawyers" no doubt.


100% correct. Cheaper to crush them than risk lawsuits from subsequent owners. A few years back a car dealers inventory was flooded during a storm. The MFR. Ford came in and scrapped everyone of them. And these were brand new cars ready for delivery. There was some talk of donating them to tech schools but that too was squashed in case one got out there somehow.
All due to our litigious society beer

Re: What a Waste [Re: TJP] #3002844
01/07/22 12:25 PM
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Re: What a Waste [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3002863
01/07/22 01:08 PM
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Weren't a bunch of GM cars crushed back in '72 because of a labor strike?


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Re: What a Waste [Re: SattyNoCar] #3002918
01/07/22 04:24 PM
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^^^ Yup, by the time it was over GM had the '73 model year changeover coming, with the battering-ram bumpers.
I've seen a photo of F-bodies (Camaro & Firebird) on an empty assy line.

Bottom line on the current deal is that somebody calculates anticipated losses from warranty, customer displeasure, and legal costs.
With all the electronics & computers in modern cars, there's no way they want those cars out there, and the bottom-line repair costs are likely huge.
Too bad they can't go to vo-tech schools, but as stated I'm sure GM doesn't want one getting out on the road.

Re: What a Waste [Re: topside] #3002919
01/07/22 04:27 PM
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At times, they will sell the vehicles to a big salvage vendor like LKQ Corp. In return, LKQ Corp must document that they destroyed the vehicles, i.e., cut them up for parts. I suppose they could've done that here, but chose not to.

I've been at LKQ Corp's largest yard several times (Akron, OH), and watched them shoot video of their employees cutting up brand new cars that had been damaged in transit. Some of the vehicles weren't even damaged, but the OEM scrapped the entire load anyway. I was there once while the scrapped 3 brand new WS6 Trans Ams. GM had used these 3 as test cars for a differently designed rear seat. LKQ had to video themselves removing the rear seats, boxing them up, and shipping them back to GM, and then had to video themselves cutting up the cars. I had a training class of new hires with me, and they were amazed at watching these guys go to work with a plasma cutter on a brand new car.

Saw them scrap a train load of VW's after a few train cars derailed. Saw the same thing with a train load of Chryslers, too...a few hundred cars from each incident, some damaged, some not, all chopped up. Watched them cut up some magazine test cars, too.


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Re: What a Waste [Re: not_a_charger] #3002949
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nothing new, turbine cars were scrapped and filmed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwwrmnzSRm0

Re: What a Waste [Re: ekim] #3003024
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Back in 72, the auto shop at my school got a 71 Chrysler from Chrysler that was damaged on a train car in a derailment. The auto shop was told they could keep the car as long as it was disabled enough it could never be returned to the road. I was part of the group of guys that started cutting quarters and chunks out of the floors. Even then by the end of the 74 school year, Chrysler was there to take the car back. Too much liability was the reason they gave. They were concerned some of the parts off that car may make it to the streets, so they picked the car back up.

UPS used to be the same way, when they junked a truck, the salvage yard had to provide documentation that every part from the truck was scrapped and would not be returned to the street. The truck was weighed and the documentation had to account for every pound. I tried to buy a chunk of the aluminum skin off of one one day and the yard owner showed me the documentation he had to fill out. One truck documentation comes up short and they pulled the entire scrapping rights away instantly. UPS was scrapping trucks based on miles and how old the trucks were. not a contract you wanted to loose.

Re: What a Waste [Re: ekim] #3003030
01/07/22 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ekim
nothing new, turbine cars were scrapped and filmed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwwrmnzSRm0


Sniff...

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