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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: dvw] #3001037
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You could have tie rod length same as lca and have same toe issues. That indicates that the two are in different arc. toe out is the least desirable you have to play with outer tie rod heights until you get the least of toe change. look in mopar chassis book it shows how to do this by making a sweep graph. .That is why we heat and bend the tie rod mount at the end of the lower ball joint or get adjuster kit and use hime joints.

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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: MoonshineMattK] #3001050
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Originally Posted by MoonshineMattK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP4gi4jr9oU

This probably wont help but Herb talks about it here. Interesting video none the less.


Thanks, that was a great video! up He did mention how he worked on the front end to make sure the tires moved up and down straight....

Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: JAKE68] #3001053
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Originally Posted by JAKE68
You could have tie rod length same as lca and have same toe issues. That indicates that the two are in different arc. toe out is the least desirable you have to play with outer tie rod heights until you get the least of toe change. look in mopar chassis book it shows how to do this by making a sweep graph. .That is why we heat and bend the tie rod mount at the end of the lower ball joint or get adjuster kit and use hime joints.


I am unable to find a copy of this on Amazon, etc... If it is not too much trouble, could you post a pic/copy of this section: making a sweep graph.

Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: TheOtherDodge] #3001059
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My buddy Patrick made a bump steer gauge and plotted mine on the Valiant when he remounted the rack. I think he found a video on YouTube showing how to do it.


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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: slantzilla] #3001117
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Originally Posted by slantzilla
My buddy Patrick made a bump steer gauge and plotted mine on the Valiant when he remounted the rack. I think he found a video on YouTube showing how to do it.


Just a quick search: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSCLJkZN3cs

Has anyone tried this?

Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: TheOtherDodge] #3001120
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Originally Posted by TheOtherDodge
Originally Posted by JAKE68
You could have tie rod length same as lca and have same toe issues. That indicates that the two are in different arc. toe out is the least desirable you have to play with outer tie rod heights until you get the least of toe change. look in mopar chassis book it shows how to do this by making a sweep graph. .That is why we heat and bend the tie rod mount at the end of the lower ball joint or get adjuster kit and use hime joints.


I am unable to find a copy of this on Amazon, etc... If it is not too much trouble, could you post a pic/copy of this section: making a sweep graph.



i think i can make a PDF file of this from the chassis manual, showing plotting graphs.
then send it to you ?
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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: moparx] #3001122
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Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by TheOtherDodge
Originally Posted by JAKE68
You could have tie rod length same as lca and have same toe issues. That indicates that the two are in different arc. toe out is the least desirable you have to play with outer tie rod heights until you get the least of toe change. look in mopar chassis book it shows how to do this by making a sweep graph. .That is why we heat and bend the tie rod mount at the end of the lower ball joint or get adjuster kit and use hime joints.


I am unable to find a copy of this on Amazon, etc... If it is not too much trouble, could you post a pic/copy of this section: making a sweep graph.



i think i can make a PDF file of this from the chassis manual, showing plotting graphs.
then send it to you ?
beer


That would be great! Jsintexas2 domain is yahoo

After a bit more reading, I fully understand what the issue is... now, I am just trying to determine what the easiest/best way is to resolve it.

Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: TheOtherDodge] #3001124
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i will get on it and report back in a bit.............
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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: moparx] #3001134
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ok........... got a 13 page PDF from the chassis book on how to fix and plot bump steer.
if anyone wants a copy, pm me with e-mail address, and i will send it to you. put # 106 in the request.
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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: TheOtherDodge] #3001139
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on it's way. subject will be "chassis manual".
please let me know if you get it. i have been known to "screw up" even the most simplest things, like being able to break an anvil with a feather. biggrin
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Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: moparx] #3001157
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Originally Posted by moparx
on it's way. subject will be "chassis manual".
please let me know if you get it. i have been known to "screw up" even the most simplest things, like being able to break an anvil with a feather. biggrin
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Got it! Many thanks! dakota drive

Re: What causes front tires to turn outwards during wheelie [Re: TheOtherDodge] #3001171
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not a problem !
if you need anything else from that manual, give me a shout. up
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