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Do you know if could convert a 73/74 cuda challenger driver side bucket seat and conver it a passenger side seat instead? Witj lockin on passengers instead of driverside.Did dodge/plymouth make that universal the components and interchangeable to do?Has anyone done a conversion like that before with 70s mopar seats?

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You could simply get a passenger side bucket and fit it over the driver side tracks. Of course you will keep the tracks position adjuster toward to outer side which can't be changed. Tracks are exclusive to the side they are made... aside the lever won't be reacheable if you get console or buddy seat.


Well, if buddy seat, the back release button could be not accesible either!


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The tracks will not interchange for sure. I know a 70-72 will not interchange. The bottoms will but the lower brace is different for the pass vs driver. Now, the 73-74 seat may be different. The latching mechanisms is on the outside. The foam and covers should be the same on 73-74 for both sides.

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The latchin mechanism what I'm talkin about.

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Someone told all l have to do is the catch over to passenger side of of bucket seat.since the seat is 73 74 non hardback.it just won't be spring loaded apparently.

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Originally Posted by fastmark
The tracks will not interchange for sure. I know a 70-72 will not interchange. The bottoms will but the lower brace is different for the pass vs driver. Now, the 73-74 seat may be different. The latching mechanisms is on the outside. The foam and covers should be the same on 73-74 for both sides.


You can fit the full seat on either of the tracks sides. I'm pretty sure because even it was LONG time ago I remember when reassembling my car, installed on wrong side the one of the buckets tracks pair.

You can't fit correctly the full seat and track on the other side of the floor board. Will bolt up but the angle will be wrong.

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The latchin mechanism what I'm talkin about.


Latching mechanism is built into the seats frame with its specific provisions for it. Can't be changed of side on the same seat.

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Someone told all l have to do is the catch over to passenger side of of bucket seat.since the seat is 73 74 non hardback.it just won't be spring loaded apparently.


Hardback or not, it is more less the same. Get a passenger side bucket and install on the driver side tracks. You should be done with that. Unless I'm missing something on my mind

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seat bottom and back have the same attaching frame work, both sides. The catch is held on with a clip to the seat back. The catch can be switched side to side, but the spring is not the same, there is a left and a right. You can still use the catch, it just won't be spring loaded. What someone else told me.

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Sorry, that's not what remember on my buckets ( 74 B body ). I made also the mistake of install the wrong back on the other side bottoms once, and backs angled somehow different.


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Aside that, LATCH itself is diff. Just like the doors, you can't switch over the latch because won't catch the striker/catch on bottom. They are designed to work in just one sense.

Catch attached to bottom is also diff shape betwen sides, now dunno if that actually affect the working, aside don't match the seat shape.

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There a e-body bucket seat.73 74 were non hard back non push button as well. The lever was on side of seat

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OK, had to search.... now I see what you mean

Ebay 73/74 e body buckets

A small lever on back of the hinge. i guess it catches a striker attached on the side of the bottom!

Now I can't talk about that. Just imagining how it works, yes, I guess the lever return spring needing to work attached on diff side it gets its attaching "claws" reversed, just like the passenger side system.

BUT still talking from the B body experience ( and previous E ), the hinges shape/curvature is somehow slightly diff between left and right side of each back. Dunno then if the lever will match the hinge on the other side. Or even if the latch can be attached from the opposite side to the opposite hinge side.

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Oh.ok that's the seats l have. Yep the lever that catches the bottom.l see what you mean by lever still may not work.73-76 b body seats were hard back expect plymouth im 73-74 was soft back.

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Well, you have both buckets, right? Look closelly at each bucket lever system and compare. I guess is mostly abouth remove the hinge covers to get a clear view of it.

I still think the best option could be get a passenger side bucket and bolt them on the driver side tracks


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Only have a driver side seat lookin for a passenger side seat.some one offer me a driver side seat.thinkin of still lookin for a passenger side tho.

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Here are some pictures of the latch mechanisms for the 73/74 seat.

They are different than the earlier 70/71/72 E and B body seats.

The 73/74 E-body seats had steel pins sticking out of the sides of the bottom half. When upright the upper seat hing arm rested against the steel pins. The latch was attached to the inside of the hinge arm and hooked the steel pins on the base to latch the seat.

From the pictures I can find it appears that the latch should just swap sides EXCEPT I think there is a motion limiting tab on the latch that would be left/right specific. If it is, then it is an easy fix to bend/modify it.

Unfortunately I do not have my 73 & 74 E Bodies at my house so I can't get up close and personal with them but if you need me to I think I can go over to get some information from them in the next few days.

Since the steel pins and hinges seem to be identical side to side I think you can swap the latch with little to no effort.

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Oh ok that's what l though about latch that it could be swap over.limting tab might have to be modified.l may need to help if you can get some info that be cool

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Originally Posted by IMGTX

Here are some pictures of the latch mechanisms for the 73/74 seat.

They are different than the earlier 70/71/72 E and B body seats.

The 73/74 E-body seats had steel pins sticking out of the sides of the bottom half. When upright the upper seat hing arm rested against the steel pins. The latch was attached to the inside of the hinge arm and hooked the steel pins on the base to latch the seat.

From the pictures I can find it appears that the latch should just swap sides EXCEPT I think there is a motion limiting tab on the latch that would be left/right specific. If it is, then it is an easy fix to bend/modify it.

Unfortunately I do not have my 73 & 74 E Bodies at my house so I can't get up close and personal with them but if you need me to I think I can go over to get some information from them in the next few days.

Since the steel pins and hinges seem to be identical side to side I think you can swap the latch with little to no effort.








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Thanks, I made to figure it out once I noticed the seats on ebay! Alghought these detailed pics are great! Nice to learn about this!


It seems you are right about the latch interchange, but I guess latch return spring is not and I'm still wondering about the hinges braces itself. On my 74 Charger I installed wrong side the backs on bottoms ( dunno how I made that mistake ) and the backs angled slighting diff from side to side. That's what I recall unless I'm missing something. That could be a diff bottom frame for this area?

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Originally Posted by mopar muscle7271
Only have a driver side seat lookin for a passenger side seat.some one offer me a driver side seat.thinkin of still lookin for a passenger side tho.


Dunno why i was thinking you wanted (for any reason) change the latch mechanism to inside but still having both seats in hands. If you are searching for seats including tracks there is another problem: as mentioned on the first reply you got, the tracks won't be side interchange. Floor board is shaped diff and the positioning adjuster lever will meet the transmission tunnel. Seats can be installed on either tracks side ( which is what I meant ), but not on either side of the car with its corresponding tracks

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Originally Posted by NachoRT74


I'm still wondering about the hinges braces itself. On my 74 Charger I installed wrong side the backs on bottoms ( dunno how I made that mistake ) and the backs angled slighting diff from side to side. That's what I recall unless I'm missing something. That could be a diff bottom frame for this area?


Good information to know. When I get over to the cars I will do what I can to measure the angles of the hinges just to be sure I cover the bases as best as I can.

Thanks for the info. up

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Oh ok cool sounds good

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