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Front suspension rebuild advice #2998615
12/26/21 02:05 PM
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Time to order front suspension stuff, 1970 E-body.

Ball joints, tie rod ends, polygraphite bushings for sure, I'm willing to buy upper A-arms with a ball joint and graphite bushings already put in.

Prefer "good quality" stuff, whatever that is these days.

Better suppliers are ........???

Not really shopping for cheapest price here.

Idler arm too I guess ( with a graphite bushing ?)

Re: Front suspension rebuild advice [Re: hemienvy] #2998618
12/26/21 02:16 PM
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Firm Feel is a pretty good supplier, not sure they have polygraphite bushings, they do have polyurethane though.

Re: Front suspension rebuild advice [Re: Sniper] #2998630
12/26/21 03:17 PM
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Re: Front suspension rebuild advice [Re: Moparite] #2998634
12/26/21 03:39 PM
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I bought the new uppers from Speedway - came with bushings and ball joints already installed. The metal is a tad thinner.
But the added benefit that I didn’t know at the time of purchase is they give you more caster.

Came in black but I painted them in the natural metal finish.

Re: Front suspension rebuild advice [Re: A727Tflite] #2998668
12/26/21 06:08 PM
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I agree on firmfeel. Moog lost it's good reputation on at least the rubber parts like grease boots, if not all the stuff not made here in USA. I emailed Moog and surprisingly got a fast response, stating they would need specific part numbers to tell me country of manufacture as they manufacture in many countries now (0f course). I emailed them my specific part numbers for my Diplomat AHB, the larger 11/16th tie rods and tie rod ends, and upper and lower ball joints and another fast response that they were still manufactured in USA. My Fast Ratio Pitman Arm/Idler along with urethane bushings came from Firmfeel. The Firmfeel and Moog stuff has been good although shortly after install rubber Moog grease boots cracked and had to be replaced by old ones I still had. One had fallen off.


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Re: Front suspension rebuild advice [Re: larrymopar360] #2998761
12/27/21 04:09 AM
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My advice based on experience is:

1. Before you spend a bunch of money on questionable aftermarket stuff, do some research on how much more it would cost for real NOS ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. They might not be crazy expensive, depending on your definition of crazy expensive. Simply Google the part numbers.

2. Don't buy all new stuff before you disassemble and evaluate individual old parts, or at least have a plan how to get rid of new parts you don't need. For example, I bought a complete front end re-build kit, thinking that because my car had 160,000 miles on it, ALL the parts must be bad. Not so - my old tie rods and ends were not worn out after 160,000 miles. Everything else was worn out, but just barely in the case of lower ball joints.

3. Don't be misled by what you think is "excessive" looseness in old lower ball joints. New NOS lower ball joints come with some looseness, at least in the case of A-body. See service manual for how much is too much.

4. Submerge ball joint seals in 303 or Armor All for a day or two.


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Re: Front suspension rebuild advice [Re: hemienvy] #2998764
12/27/21 07:44 AM
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I dare say that all of the "kits" with everything that you find is just no name china stuff.







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