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Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: topside] #2996639 12/19/21 01:55 AM 12/19/21 01:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal	Originally Posted by topside Uh, that's a big NFW at base price. And the market adjustment and add-ons are nuts ! I think that address was once a Dodge dealership, and Russ Westbrook currently plays for the Lakers. It’s the old Van Nuys Dodge. The last 2 or 3 ownerships/management groups have been a joke.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: autoxcuda] #2996649 12/19/21 07:18 AM 12/19/21 07:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,638 PA 7 70Duster top fuel
70Duster top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,638 PA	At some point in time in the future, the economy will be different, gas prices will be higher, the factories will be making far more than they can sell, and the dealers will be begging to sell them at 15 or 20% off MSRP with no additional mark ups. It will be hard to feel sorry for them thinking back to their attempted rape with this type of pricing.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: Twostick] #2996730 12/19/21 01:47 PM 12/19/21 01:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida larrymopar360 Stud Muffin
larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida	Originally Posted by Twostick Originally Posted by BloFish Stupid money Not as stupid as the door knob that pays it. Kevin "You sir are no gentleman"! "Hey, I'm not exactly a door knob either". Facts are stubborn things.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: A12] #2996744 12/19/21 02:30 PM 12/19/21 02:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,881 Pittsburgh,PA RTSrunner top fuel
RTSrunner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,881 Pittsburgh,PA	Originally Posted by A12 Hey that stock number would make it a Road Runner coupe/post car And the FU in the VIN sequence is the icing on the price

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: RTSrunner] #2996748 12/19/21 02:54 PM 12/19/21 02:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas	Probably some wiggle room in that 50 grand....

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: RTSrunner] #2996766 12/19/21 04:19 PM 12/19/21 04:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida larrymopar360 Stud Muffin
larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida	Originally Posted by RTSrunner Originally Posted by A12 Hey that stock number would make it a Road Runner coupe/post car And the FU in the VIN sequence is the icing on the price Yes that says it all Facts are stubborn things.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: larrymopar360] #2996793 12/19/21 07:14 PM 12/19/21 07:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,429 Super Spudsville Mr PotatoHead Half Baked
Mr PotatoHead Half Baked Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,429 Super Spudsville	This past week I spoke to my local lil dealer about locating an orange 2021 TRX and he was able to with the added costs. The best he could come up with was.... people are more then happy to pay the extra to get this truck. Not me, even if I could afford the "adjustment" its for the rich and foolish imo... not a hater just cant see paying more then designed. STOP POTATO HATE!

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2996829 12/19/21 09:12 PM 12/19/21 09:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida larrymopar360 Stud Muffin
larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida	Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead This past week I spoke to my local lil dealer about locating an orange 2021 TRX and he was able to with the added costs. The best he could come up with was.... people are more then happy to pay the extra to get this truck. Not me, even if I could afford the "adjustment" its for the rich and foolish imo... not a hater just cant see paying more then designed. This is how I feel. I just might pull the trigger on a graphite Level 1 options if at sticker. A dollar over and they can go you know what. If for no other reason the principle. When I bought my '06 SRT8 Charger brand new they were pulling the "Market Adjustment" crap also. I found one exactly as I wanted (color, options) in Ft. Lauderdale which is only about 120 miles from me. I called the dealership and said I would sticker price, cash and give a credit card deposit of how ever much they wanted right now. Salesman said he needed to check and would call me back. Fifteen minutes later he calls back and says "my manager said he won't take a nickel less than $5000 over sticker". A few days later one popped up at a dealership in Missouri, so I called and said same thing. They said yes, and I shipped for $600. A year later you could find slightly used ones way under sticker. Facts are stubborn things.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: larrymopar360] #2996903 12/20/21 12:31 AM 12/20/21 12:31 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	My friend just bought a TRX,I saw it for the first time tonight. 5k over sticker,just over 100k. Last edited by chargervert; 12/20/21 09:11 AM. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: larrymopar360] #2996904 12/20/21 12:33 AM 12/20/21 12:33 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	There has been a sob story told by the dealers lately that they don't make much money on new vehicle sales. The story is that the internet has put a bright light on the actual cost the dealers pay for the cars so they are having a difficult time making the huge profits that they used to make. The shortages we have seen this year do add some legitimacy to the rumor though. I do know for a fact that when my Dad sold cars, the parts and service departments were where the majority of the money was made. They carried all the overhead for the dealership and the sales department was there almost as a gateway to sell those parts and services. I remember those b u l l s h i t market adjustments being tacked on the 2008 Challengers. They were great cars but within a few years, the cars were selling for well below MSRP. For the dudes that HAD to have the newest thing, they sure paid a steep price for it.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: Kern Dog] #2996953 12/20/21 09:09 AM 12/20/21 09:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	We bought our 2009 Challenger R/T classic , off the showroom floor at sticker, other dealerships were marking them up between 5 and 10 grand over sticker at the time. Last edited by chargervert; 12/20/21 09:10 AM. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: chargervert] #2996994 12/20/21 11:13 AM 12/20/21 11:13 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona	With that price they’ll see even more of their dwindling stock sitting on the sales lot. Surprised they aren't charging for the chips “So if it’s on the internet it must be true” Abe Lincoln

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: dart4forte] #2997053 12/20/21 02:15 PM 12/20/21 02:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,342 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,342 north of coder	makes my 99 caravan ["the bus"] look better all the time.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: Kern Dog] #2997068 12/20/21 02:58 PM 12/20/21 02:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,373 St. Charles, MO wingman Uncreative Title
wingman Uncreative Title Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,373 St. Charles, MO	Originally Posted by Frankenduster I do know for a fact that when my Dad sold cars, the parts and service departments were where the majority of the money was made. They carried all the overhead for the dealership and the sales department was there almost as a gateway to sell those parts and services. Yep. That's why vehicle option "subscriptions" (mentioned in another thread) and "right to repair" are both such big issues right now. Manufacturers are working to find ways to force you to go back to that dealer service department whether you want to or not. 1969 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 383 A4 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 440 FC7 (sold)

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: Kern Dog] #2997367 12/21/21 05:46 PM 12/21/21 05:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida larrymopar360 Stud Muffin
larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,827 Central Florida	Originally Posted by Frankenduster There has been a sob story told by the dealers lately that they don't make much money on new vehicle sales. The story is that the internet has put a bright light on the actual cost the dealers pay for the cars so they are having a difficult time making the huge profits that they used to make. The shortages we have seen this year do add some legitimacy to the rumor though. I do know for a fact that when my Dad sold cars, the parts and service departments were where the majority of the money was made. They carried all the overhead for the dealership and the sales department was there almost as a gateway to sell those parts and services. I remember those b u l l s h i t market adjustments being tacked on the 2008 Challengers. They were great cars but within a few years, the cars were selling for well below MSRP. For the dudes that HAD to have the newest thing, they sure paid a steep price for it. Well I do know they never made a huge killing on new cars, and used cars were their cash cow, along with service as you mentioned. I wonder if they ever think about the ill will created with this practice. $5k isn't too bad. Facts are stubborn things.

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: larrymopar360] #2997372 12/21/21 06:11 PM 12/21/21 06:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,429 Super Spudsville Mr PotatoHead Half Baked
Mr PotatoHead Half Baked Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,429 Super Spudsville	I would bend over a bit on the added 5k if I could get the one I wanted (color) but unfortunately the reason I want that color and the reason a certain demographic would want it is very different from mine but it will probably keep the 2021 ones in orange on the high side of things. STOP POTATO HATE!

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2997374 12/21/21 06:15 PM 12/21/21 06:15 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,255 IL furious70 top fuel
furious70 top fuel Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,255 IL	If you want a TRX, there have been multiple dealers offering $10k off sticker on orders, wait time TBD. But the swing in price vs on the lot today could well be 10-50k depending on where you are. I thought about buying one for hellcat + AWD. Really wanted a Trackhawk but they are unobtanium. I ordered a HC Charger instead and will just stay home on snow days. 70 Sport Fury 68 Charger 69 Coronet 72 RR

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: furious70] #2997379 12/21/21 06:25 PM 12/21/21 06:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,429 Super Spudsville Mr PotatoHead Half Baked
Mr PotatoHead Half Baked Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,429 Super Spudsville	If you want a TRX, there have been multiple dealers offering $10k off sticker on orders, wait time TBD. Thanks, I was just looking online and might be able to order close to what I want, hard to tell what shade of orange it really is. STOP POTATO HATE!

Re: Thats a nope for me [Re: bigdad] #2997380 12/21/21 06:26 PM 12/21/21 06:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 667 Los Osos, Ca C CKessel mopar
CKessel mopar C Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 667 Los Osos, Ca	Originally Posted by bigdad Lol .. price's these days Highway robbery for sure but it will be interesting to see if some fool HAS TO HAVE IT regardless if they are getting hosed. I remember when the PT's first came out. The dealer I worked at, parts Dept for me, had a line of idiots wrapped out the door to pay a way inflated sticker instead of waiting and shopping. No one is holding a gun to the head of the buyer to make them purchase it. Carl Kessel

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