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A new toy for the street & track #2995514
12/15/21 03:15 PM
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Yes, I still have The MoPig and, yes, it's still a work in progress. The good news is it's basically down to reassembly of the front suspension and putting the sheet metal back on. Pics later, possibly...

In the meantime, there is now a Challenger 1320 in the driveway that will do occasional commuting and trips to the track. First new car we've actually bought for me in 20 years, too.

Yeah, Santa came early at my house.

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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Brad_Haak] #2995517
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That should be a fun ride. Are you going to let your kids drive it?

Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: AndyF] #2995519
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Ahhhhh... no, the kids aren't even listed as authorized drivers on the 1320's insurance policy. shake_head

See Andy, you kept telling me to try EFI and I finally listened! wink


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: AndyF] #2995520
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Lots of fun!

I drove a friend's ScatPack Challenger a couple of weekends ago and it was very impressive.


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Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: GY3] #2995523
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MoPig status pics, although nothing's really changed in a couple of months... and too bleeping' cold to work in an unheated garage.

Engine on stand, then when we bolted on the trans and slid 'em into the engine bay (from underneath).

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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Brad_Haak] #2995524
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2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Brad_Haak] #2995525
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Frame needed work before anything went back together:
- repaired rusted out front frame rail on driver's side
- repaired rusted out rear frame rail on driver's side
- added front inner fender reinforcements (visible in some of the pics)
- added radiator core support brace (visible in pic of front of engine)
- probably something else that slips my mind at the moment...

wrench + hammer + sawzall + weld + primer


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Brad_Haak] #2995536
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Very nice...good to see you back Brad. up


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
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'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2995542
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great to see you back and rolling along Brad

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: tex013] #2995556
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Nice new hotrod for sure. Good to see you back here for sure. Dont be a stranger smile


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Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Al_Alguire] #2995591
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A 1320 would be fun for sure. You could go to the track with a full tank of gas and never get out of the car hammering out passes! I think they are hard to cut a light with but I would love to have one to bracket race every weekend.

My sister in law has a 2020 scat pack but it is a 6 speed and not an automatic. It was incredibly hard to leave with at the track but I had fun making a few passes in it. On one of the passes I got murdered by a 1320 challenger, I stopped the bleeding about 1/2 track but he was already gone.


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Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Brad_Haak] #2995601
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Sliding the engine and trans in from below saves a lot of hassle, especially if you can do it with the headers installed. I can see that not only did you not take my advice on EFI, you didn't take my advice on using the smaller and lighter Denso 60 amp alternator! Project looks good, nice to have the repairs done and the reinforcements in place.

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Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: AndyF] #2995612
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Nice cars, 1320, same as my SRT and unless you’re sitting in glue, instant tire spin. Easy 11s with sticky tires. Mine took 3 seconds to go 10 feet spinning, finally let out then eased it out and went 13.2 at 105. I had a 70-1/2 Z28 back in 72 that would only run 14.1 with 4.10 gears and hooked and thought that was fast. These new cars are the best of both worlds, racy and comfortable.

Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: AndyF] #2995616
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I think I gave up trying to sell Brad an aluminum master cylinder adapter sometime around 1994 or something wink

Nice to see you with the new ride Brad, as I know the drag pak program and Gen 3 stuff has been of great interest for several years.


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Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: ZIPPY] #2995732
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congratulations on the new toy, and nice progress on the Mopig!
Welcome back!

Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: powertrip] #2995736
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Nice car and welcome back.

There is clearly a source of heat in that garage. One of these days you will take my advice and insulate/drywall your workspace lol.

Zippy did you sell him the viscous fan package lol?



Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Jeremiah] #2995857
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Nice!!!!

And......

Nice!!!!

Stick or auto?


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Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: fast68plymouth] #2995878
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The 1320 Package is only available w/ an auto cuz it's got a factory-equipped trans brake.

However, it seems like a lot of owners don't bother with it cuz it's a PITA to work... and people seem to be going about the same ETs foot-braking them. Here's a video on How To Use The Trans Brake.

Only one way to know for sure... drive

Last edited by Brad_Haak; 12/16/21 06:07 PM.

2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: Brad_Haak] #2995908
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Are you going to try out the trans brake or wait until the warranty period is over? On brand new car I might just wait a while before I started beating the heck out of it but who knows, I suppose they are engineered to take it since it is a factory design. Still seems a little harsh for a new car, especially if it is going to be a daily driver.

I know a gal who has one of the flat crank Mustangs and she beats on it. I think she has gone thru several sets of tires already. Those things wind up fast and sound wicked doing it.

Re: A new toy for the street & track [Re: AndyF] #2996039
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It's got a whopping 261 miles on it right now. I'm enjoying simply driving the car and haven't given much thought to whether or not I'll try the trans brake.

The 1320 gets a lot of trickle down tech from the SRT Demon, so it's likely been subjected to a lot more power than the lowly NA 6.4 L.


2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320
100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft)
weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)

1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008]
pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
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