Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/22/21 09:37 PM
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/22/21 09:45 PM
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The Barton's have the advantage of not having to take the whole assembly apart when changing a spring, They both cost about the same and apparently they both work well for street or strip. I went with the Barton's.
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/23/21 01:32 AM
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It has been several years since I inquired about the weight, but when I did I learned that the base plate for the T&d / Barton system is very heavy. The stage v is lighter.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/23/21 12:38 PM
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Weekend driving only with an occasional T&T day. RPM under 7000. I currently have the Bartons, but i have to do quite a bit massaging to the plate to get it to fit. The Stage v is a direct bolt on and conventional rocker shaft oiling. Is the plate aluminum or steel?
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/23/21 03:54 PM
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/23/21 04:20 PM
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I could be off, but I seem to remember those Bartons weighing 12# more than stage V. But I can't remeber if that was total or per side?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/23/21 06:37 PM
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On the motor in a friends car that I help with he has these rockers from RB with spray bars. The complete set up is great and easy to work on. This car is a race car and this set up is one of the first that likely Ray did. One other Hemi that we race with broke a rocker and it is not a fun job at the track taking every thing apart to change a spring. Try the grille, rad just for starters because you have to slide the shaft for the rockers out completely out. If you do not make the hemi work hard most rockers will work for ever. Not sure if RB sell the spray bars but I like that application on a race motor but you have to make sure thing are clean and nothing gets plugged. The set up in the picture takes less Maintenance for each rocker set.
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/24/21 03:02 PM
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I have the RBRE rocker system on my street Hemi. I like everything about them.
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/24/21 03:21 PM
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I think those rockers are simply badass, the best. Your spark plug holes look to line up perfectly from what i can see. They are not such a good match for my Custom Stage V's. I hate the idea of machining and clearancing that plate to get it to fit my heads. The price on these will continue to increase along with all other product, when i resale in a year or two i'll get my money back. Ray told me that spray bar really wasn't needed, only in mild street apps. Thanks for the pic.
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Re: Barton T&D vs Stage V rockers
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11/24/21 08:02 PM
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All the systems come with aluminum base plates. There is an optional steel base plate if you have 1" lift or want to weld supports etc.. We have sold over 800 sets in 21 years with no real failures. Some people have 30,000 miles on them. I have recently seen a few heads that had the spark plug position slightly relocated. I had offered to CNC modify the base plates at no charge, but never heard any more about it. The system is designed to fit most heads with no modifications, but won't fit stock valve covers. Ordered a set from you in the spring and there was no question which system i was going to use.
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