Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? #2982114
11/05/21 03:48 PM
11/05/21 03:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,551
Sweden
71redcuda Offline OP
pro stock
71redcuda  Offline OP
pro stock

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,551
Sweden
Hello all!

Maby a starnge question... but im trying to figure out what gear ratio a E-body car has.. its coded for 4.10 super track pack and it revs around 3500rpm in 60mph.. could it be 4.10 then ? (auto car)


Thanks
Nicklas

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 71redcuda] #2982116
11/05/21 04:09 PM
11/05/21 04:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,861
albany ny
0
05dakota Offline
I Live Here
05dakota  Offline
I Live Here
0

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,861
albany ny
tire size matters


5549 post on old board
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 05dakota] #2982117
11/05/21 04:13 PM
11/05/21 04:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,602
westerly, ri. usa
4
440lebaron Offline
top fuel
440lebaron  Offline
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,602
westerly, ri. usa
JACK up car rotate rear wheel one turn , driveshaft should turn 4.1 times


all parts are sold as is, all parts are considered used no warranties or returns
paypal/check/money order, shipping is from zip 02891, buyer pays paypal fees 24% IRS 1099A plus 3% of part price, check/money order preferred
site is not monitored 24/7 there might be a delay in response

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 440lebaron] #2982125
11/05/21 04:44 PM
11/05/21 04:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,551
Sweden
71redcuda Offline OP
pro stock
71redcuda  Offline OP
pro stock

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,551
Sweden
F60-15 Polyglas tires. Im not close to the car..

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 71redcuda] #2982129
11/05/21 04:52 PM
11/05/21 04:52 PM
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6,215
nowhere
S
Sniper Offline
master
Sniper  Offline
master
S

Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6,215
nowhere
Assuming zero slippage, 60 mph with 4.10 gears and F60-15's works out to 3191 rpm.

Got the tire diameter here - https://turbinecar.com/tires.htm

Rom calculator here - https://purperformance.com/p-29669-rpm-calculator.html

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: Sniper] #2982141
11/05/21 05:41 PM
11/05/21 05:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,551
Sweden
71redcuda Offline OP
pro stock
71redcuda  Offline OP
pro stock

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,551
Sweden
Thanks!

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 71redcuda] #2982156
11/05/21 07:04 PM
11/05/21 07:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,220
West Plains, MO
DrCharles Offline
master
DrCharles  Offline
master

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,220
West Plains, MO
I'd check the tach for accuracy too. Some are surprisingly far off.

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: Sniper] #2982178
11/05/21 08:15 PM
11/05/21 08:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,310
Prospect, PA
BSB67 Offline
master
BSB67  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,310
Prospect, PA
Originally Posted by Sniper
Assuming zero slippage, 60 mph with 4.10 gears and F60-15's works out to 3191 rpm.

Got the tire diameter here - https://turbinecar.com/tires.htm

Rom calculator here - https://purperformance.com/p-29669-rpm-calculator.html


A little tire wear along with your auto transmission will easily put you above 3400 rpm.

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: DrCharles] #2982196
11/05/21 09:08 PM
11/05/21 09:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,268
Omaha Ne
T
TJP Offline
I Live Here
TJP  Offline
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,268
Omaha Ne
Originally Posted by DrCharles
I'd check the tach for accuracy too. Some are surprisingly far off.

up Especially factory ones wink

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 05dakota] #2982205
11/05/21 09:26 PM
11/05/21 09:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,097
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Online work
I Win
Cab_Burge  Online Work
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,097
Bend,OR USA
Originally Posted by 05dakota
tire size matters
iagree
Absolutely can affect the RPM, especially as you go down in circumference scope
I use to see from 1/2 inch to 3.0 inch differences in the same size tire between different brands shock puke shruggy
put a set of L60x15 on it and see how much the RPM goes down at the same indicated MPH scope wrench twocents

Last edited by Cab_Burge; 11/05/21 09:27 PM.

Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 71redcuda] #2982359
11/06/21 12:49 PM
11/06/21 12:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,277
West Coast, USA
jbc426 Offline
master
jbc426  Offline
master

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,277
West Coast, USA
For reference, I just lowered my gear ratio to 4.30's with 28" tall rear tires. It spins 2500 rpm at 75 mph with the torque converter locked up in 4th (.67 OD). There are plenty of online calculators to plug your numbers into and get a reasonably accurate result.


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: jbc426] #2983013
11/08/21 08:08 AM
11/08/21 08:08 AM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 790
massachusetts U.S.A.
1
1969ronnie Offline
super stock
1969ronnie  Offline
super stock
1

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 790
massachusetts U.S.A.
Hi 71 , my buddy has a 70 challenger with a 440 , 4 speed , Dana with 4.10s . Rear tires are 255-60-15 or G60-15 . Spins exactly 4,000 RPM at 70 mph . drive He gets passed by ricer cars and mini vans and HATES driving it on the highway !

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: Sniper] #2983099
11/08/21 01:30 PM
11/08/21 01:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,095
Valencia, España
NachoRT74 Offline
master
NachoRT74  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,095
Valencia, España
becarefull with RPMs calculators... they don't consider the slippage AND the inertia of the car while riding, so just can take the rpms with engine pulling completelly the car.

there is a nice XLS table on the tech archives too.

and sometime ago somebody made an animated RPM calculator based on a 68/70 B body Rallye cluster where you could add a slippage % for the torque converter, as an estimate. Dunno if is still working.

as mentioned, with wheels on the air ( being SG, need to get both on the air ), a full turn of the axle/wheel will rotate the drive shaft the gear ratio. If single leg ( no SG ) you can raise just oen wheel andwill rotate half of the gear ratio


With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: NachoRT74] #2983102
11/08/21 01:38 PM
11/08/21 01:38 PM
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6,215
nowhere
S
Sniper Offline
master
Sniper  Offline
master
S

Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6,215
nowhere
Inertia, in a steady state, is irrelevant.

With a stick car, slippage is irrelevant.

With an automatic, slippage will depend on the torque converter. A lock up TC will have no slippage, or it shouldn't.

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: Sniper] #2983105
11/08/21 01:54 PM
11/08/21 01:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,095
Valencia, España
NachoRT74 Offline
master
NachoRT74  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,095
Valencia, España
I wouldn't say inertia is irrelevant. I have driven my Charger at 130 kmh ( 80 mph or so ) on highway just keeping the acc pedal to hold the speed and I was at 3200 rpms, while calculators give me 3800. and all that diff is not slippage, becauise slippage will give you the number backwards, with more RPMs than the calculators give

Last edited by NachoRT74; 11/08/21 01:57 PM.

With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: 1969ronnie] #2984585
11/12/21 06:05 PM
11/12/21 06:05 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,061
Atlanta, GA
M
mgoblue9798 Offline
super stock
mgoblue9798  Offline
super stock
M

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,061
Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted by 1969ronnie
Hi 71 , my buddy has a 70 challenger with a 440 , 4 speed , Dana with 4.10s . Rear tires are 255-60-15 or G60-15 . Spins exactly 4,000 RPM at 70 mph . drive He gets passed by ricer cars and mini vans and HATES driving it on the highway !


If he would install a 5 or 6 speed overdrive he would be doing the passing and love it.

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: mgoblue9798] #2984589
11/12/21 06:20 PM
11/12/21 06:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 790
massachusetts U.S.A.
1
1969ronnie Offline
super stock
1969ronnie  Offline
super stock
1

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 790
massachusetts U.S.A.
Hi mg , his brother has a 70 cuda 440+6 , 4.10 Dana with a 5 speed conversion and is it sweet ! I have driven it and Highly agree , especially if you want to keep those deep 4.10 gears . drive But his brother will NOT change or do anything not stock , Original only .

Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: NachoRT74] #2984667
11/12/21 09:50 PM
11/12/21 09:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,198
Someplace you aren't
S
SomeCarGuy Offline
I Live Here
SomeCarGuy  Offline
I Live Here
S

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,198
Someplace you aren't
Originally Posted by NachoRT74
I wouldn't say inertia is irrelevant. I have driven my Charger at 130 kmh ( 80 mph or so ) on highway just keeping the acc pedal to hold the speed and I was at 3200 rpms, while calculators give me 3800. and all that diff is not slippage, becauise slippage will give you the number backwards, with more RPMs than the calculators give


Inertia is irrelevant. Sniper is correct.


I want my fair share
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2984852
11/13/21 03:02 PM
11/13/21 03:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,160
Plymouth, MI
Blusmbl Offline
master
Blusmbl  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,160
Plymouth, MI
Originally Posted by SomeCarGuy
Inertia is irrelevant. Sniper is correct.


It has a minor component on an automatic as it'll change the converter slippage. The slip percent will change going up or down a hill, as an example. On a manual it doesn't matter at all though.

Another thing that will affect it is tire pressure and the tire itself. The tire squishes and loses diameter as you apply load to it, so the rpm to vehicle speed relationship changes.


'18 Ford Raptor, random motorcycles, 1968 Plymouth Fury III - 11.37 @ 118
Re: How much does a 4.10 gear ratio car rev in 60 mph ? [Re: Blusmbl] #2984865
11/13/21 04:02 PM
11/13/21 04:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,397
It's a dry heat
gtx6970 Offline
Too Many Posts
gtx6970  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,397
It's a dry heat
I met a guy this morning that just recently bought a 440 sixpack 4spd Super track pack 1970 Challenger. And he says the 4.10s will be the very 1st thing to go away to be replaced by a 3.54 Dana

He didnt mention RPMS but he said the car is screaming on hiway speeds

Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1