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Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads #2977996
10/24/21 08:52 PM
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Can you run stock rockers on Edelbrock or trickflow heads on a small block LA motor?

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: fastmark] #2977999
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I know people who have done it on the Edelbrock heads.

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: fastmark] #2978001
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I know they work just fine on big blocks with mild lift camshafts. twocents
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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: Copper Dart] #2978027
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Originally Posted by Copper Dart
I know they work just fine on big blocks with mild lift camshafts. twocents
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Yes, have done it with a mild 500 lift cam


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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: B3422W5] #2978099
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I’m talking SB though.

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: fastmark] #2978124
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Originally Posted by fastmark
I’m talking SB though.


Same holds true for small block as well. I ran a Comp XE274 with stock style rockers and Edelbrock heads for about eight years. That cam is also a mild .500ish" lift.

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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: Copper Dart] #2978160
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Off topic but anyone else see a problem here?

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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: GomangoCuda] #2978208
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yes indeed ! that should be attended to as soon as possible ! eek tsk fan
if the flag can not be repaired, it should be disposed of properly, and a new one installed somewhat higher.
a cover plate is cheap insurance to prevent a possible tragedy. i have personally seen things caused by not having a cover plate over switches and outlets. they were not pretty by any means..........
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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: GomangoCuda] #2978226
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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
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Hmm. There's a way to courteously recommend something to someone......or bludgeon them. shruggy


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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: fastmark] #2978240
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We ran stock rockers on small block Edelbrock heads for years. Had a ran a .533 MP cam, .519/.524 comp cam and I think .55ish cam. All were hydraulic. Did go to a .528 MP solid cam and used 273 rockers without any issues as well.

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: 6PakBee] #2978276
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Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Off topic but anyone else see a problem here?


Hmm. There's a way to courteously recommend something to someone......or bludgeon them. shruggy


Sorry if I hurt your feelings but disrespect for our flag and disregard of very basic electrical safety does not generally trigger a courteous response from me.
If I was in his garage or yours or for that matter my best friends I would have been all over this. Actually I probably would have then offered to fix all of the problems if they couldn't.

1. Displaying the damaged flag is disrespectful. I can't emphasize that enough. It can be easily repaired or properly disposed of.

2. The missing cover is a shock or electrocution hazard. Easily fixed for less $ than an order of Mcdonalds french fries.

3. The flammable piece of cloth dangling from the flag is actually touching the uncovered electrical box and a plug. Easily fixed Fire hazard.

4. Might be an artifact in the image but the cord appears to be pulled out of the top plug. Never pull a plug out by the cord.

OK, now you can call it a bludgeon if you like. Perhaps a well deserved one.



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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: GomangoCuda] #2978305
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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Off topic but anyone else see a problem here?


Hmm. There's a way to courteously recommend something to someone......or bludgeon them. shruggy


Sorry if I hurt your feelings but disrespect for our flag and disregard of very basic electrical safety does not generally trigger a courteous response from me.
If I was in his garage or yours or for that matter my best friends I would have been all over this. Actually I probably would have then offered to fix all of the problems if they couldn't.

1. Displaying the damaged flag is disrespectful. I can't emphasize that enough. It can be easily repaired or properly disposed of.

2. The missing cover is a shock or electrocution hazard. Easily fixed for less $ than an order of Mcdonalds french fries.

3. The flammable piece of cloth dangling from the flag is actually touching the uncovered electrical box and a plug. Easily fixed Fire hazard.

4. Might be an artifact in the image but the cord appears to be pulled out of the top plug. Never pull a plug out by the cord.

OK, now you can call it a bludgeon if you like. Perhaps a well deserved one.




I agree with everything you said. But if you had initially phrased it somewhat like "You may want to consider putting a cover on your receptacle. An open box like that poses both an electrocution and a fire hazard. You also may want to repair the flag, it deserves it.". See how that works? Rather than playing "Where's Waldo".

I guess everyone has their own style. beer


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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: GomangoCuda] #2978340
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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
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Im not finished with the remodel whistling
I can't tell you how happy I am that I posted this old photo Karen..
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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: GomangoCuda] #2978382
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Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Originally Posted by GomangoCuda
Off topic but anyone else see a problem here?


Hmm. There's a way to courteously recommend something to someone......or bludgeon them. shruggy


Sorry if I hurt your feelings but disrespect for our flag and disregard of very basic electrical safety does not generally trigger a courteous response from me.
If I was in his garage or yours or for that matter my best friends I would have been all over this. Actually I probably would have then offered to fix all of the problems if they couldn't.

1. Displaying the damaged flag is disrespectful. I can't emphasize that enough. It can be easily repaired or properly disposed of.

2. The missing cover is a shock or electrocution hazard. Easily fixed for less $ than an order of Mcdonalds french fries.

3. The flammable piece of cloth dangling from the flag is actually touching the uncovered electrical box and a plug. Easily fixed Fire hazard.

4. Might be an artifact in the image but the cord appears to be pulled out of the top plug. Never pull a plug out by the cord.

I'm not trying to cause a p ing contest but I really don't see what was offensive about the commentary. It would take less than two minutes to install a cover plate. The flag, I have known people that have given there lives for our country. Disrespecting the flag as shown IMO is disrespecting them and those that fought for our way of life. That is what I was taught by those that raised me, twocents

OK now my next question is why would someone go to the expense of Edelbrock heads and use factory style stamped steel non adjustable rockers? Seems counterintuitive to me shruggy beer

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: TJP] #2978463
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Well you did start a p**ing contest looks like. Why didn’t you just ask the stupid question instead of just trying to insult everyone. I’ve got a customer that needs aluminum heads instead of iron for this build. Roller rockers are expensive but that’s not the real issue. They are just really very noisy. I’m trying to keep the noise to a minimum since we are using a low lift cam and don’t need the adjustablity. Now you know.

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: TJP] #2978553
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Originally Posted by TJP
OK now my next question is why would someone go to the expense of Edelbrock heads and use factory style stamped steel non adjustable rockers? Seems counterintuitive to me shruggy beer


I honestly wondered the same in reverse. Why would someone use an adjustable valvetrain on a mild cam that didn't need it? Seen way too many failures with those cheap rockers and a good set can run $800. An alloy head anymore can be justified in the amount of money needed to overhaul a set of irons alone before even taking the other advantages into account.


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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: MarkZ] #2978784
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Originally Posted by MarkZ
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OK now my next question is why would someone go to the expense of Edelbrock heads and use factory style stamped steel non adjustable rockers? Seems counterintuitive to me shruggy beer


I honestly wondered the same in reverse. Why would someone use an adjustable valvetrain on a mild cam that didn't need it? Seen way too many failures with those cheap rockers and a good set can run $800. An alloy head anymore can be justified in the amount of money needed to overhaul a set of irons alone before even taking the other advantages into account.


This is exactly the reason. The last set of aluminum steath heads I install had a roller cam and high dollar roller rockers. It was pretty noisy. Iron heads are just too costly to build and have a design that tends to detonate because of the quince area of an iron head.

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Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: Gtxxjon] #2978894
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It's been said that high zoot roller rockers offer little hidden power gains on a shaft mount system. The person I know who has the stamped steel rocker set has a cam that is moderate so it all works fine. It was cheaper for them to buy the new Edelbrock heads vs trying to track down a set of old 340 X heads and having them rebuilt. Many mopar parts hoarders here who have the old iron small block 2.02 valve heads think they really have something and price them accordingly. If you don't care about having stock iron heads it's often cheaper to just buy new heads vs resurrecting overpriced oem stuff.

Re: Stock rockers and Edelbrock heads [Re: Neil] #2978907
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I've got a mild all iron (including intake manifold) 440 in my car right now while the race motor is on the stand. Picked up a set of stealths, Eddy RPM air gap for it and the Hughes "Stage 1" cam. I have a set of Comp Magnum Rokers in the car I'd rather put on the race motor, so I was thinking of putting factory stamped rockers in the car. I think I put the Comp rockers on this motor because I didn't like the pushrod length.
Kinda watching where this discussion goes.

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