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Need help = SB 360-1 heads and Morel Hyd Roller Lifters #2976748
10/21/21 09:49 AM
10/21/21 09:49 AM
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WadeMetzinger Offline OP
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Has anyone built a small block with 360-1 heads and Morel Hyd Roller Lifters?

I'm having push rod clearance issues on a customers motor and out of ideas on how to solve.

We marked where the push rod needed to travel, put the heads on a mill and milled as much clearance without breaking into the intake ports.

Morel makes 2 Hyd Roller lifters for SB mopar and these are the race version rather than the street/strip version which the main difference is the roller size .700 to .810, they may be some additional differences but they don't provide details.

The problem with them is that the pushrod seat is so high on both of their Hyd Lifter, because of the bigger roller, these are about .060 taller but even if we moved to the other lifter, I don't think that would matter.

An offset pushrod seat would work but I don't think that's an option with a hyd lifter and since Morel doesn't deal with the public directly you can't contact them to even ask, no email or contact info on their web site.

The rockers are 1.6, but I'm not sure 1.5s would help, thoughts?

I'm wondering if my only option is to go to a solid roller since the pushrod seat is way lower. It's a billet cam so i think it would be fine, just never done that. and then I'll be stuck with a $1,100 set of Hyd roller lifters...

The lifters to the right in the first picture are a set of comp roller lifters, the pushrod seat on them is about .700" lower. That corrects the clearance issue and helps tremendously on the pushrod angle.

Cam is a Lunati 247/255 .600/.608 110 lobe sep, installed at 106



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Re: Need help = SB 360-1 heads and Morel Hyd Roller Lifters [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2976751
10/21/21 09:57 AM
10/21/21 09:57 AM
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l have no idea why it posted those sideways, they are not sideways on my phone or pc that I used to upload...

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Re: Need help = SB 360-1 heads and Morel Hyd Roller Lifters [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2976801
10/21/21 12:35 PM
10/21/21 12:35 PM
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I have heard of this problem before with the extra height of the hydraulic rollers. You might have your customer put his big boy pants on and check lash a couple of times a year haha j/k.


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Re: Need help = SB 360-1 heads and Morel Hyd Roller Lifters [Re: WadeMetzinger] #2976810
10/21/21 01:05 PM
10/21/21 01:05 PM
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I have a 1992 or 1993 360 non magnum motor that the customer bought all the parts including a hydraulic roller cam amd a set of Mrel liftes from Bullet, he bought the Trick heads and intake also.
I'm getting ready to degree the cam and check for valve to piston clearances, if I have a problem with them clearing I'll add my findings later.
I'll have to mockup them up first and use a checking pushrod before ordering the new Manton pushrods for this motor, hopefully it will work with no issues luck


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