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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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When I was trying to decide between the 295's or 315's I picked the 315's because they are shorter and a little wider, I drive a 67 B-Body and space is limited on those cars. In case you wanted a different tire to drop the back some
71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Figure I'd update this. I got a deal on a plate kit so I installed that over the winter, and also picked up an AEM wideband, an MSD timing retard box, and a NOS mini progressive controller. It shouldn't need the controller but I figured it can't hurt if I ever do pour your own puddle/no prep type racing with it. Going to be super conservative on timing, have the box configured to pull 8* out when the nitrous is activated, it's all automated through the progressive.
Right now the fuel side is teed off the carter mechanical pump. I know MoparBilly and others used to run plate kits on a ton of 440's with that Carter pump, we'll see how this goes. I'm going to be watching the wideband like a hawk and if it is running out of fuel on the top end I'll swap over to a dedicated fuel supply for the nitrous but for now I'll try it as is. I'm going to stick to 73 jets as the highest, really don't want to put a rollbar in the car and honestly I'm not sure the trans will live with it if it goes much faster than mid 11's either.
Excited for Milan to finally open!
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
[Re: Blusmbl]
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Nice! I know someone else that put the solenoids in that area...  A JAZ 1 gallon Jr. Dragster fuel cell and a small 5 psi electric pump make for a cheap supplemental if you are so inclined.
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Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
[Re: Blusmbl]
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06/01/22 01:51 PM
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Nice, I like it! 
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
[Re: Blusmbl]
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06/01/22 02:30 PM
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Cool beans! Any preliminary test hits on the street yet?
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Thanks guys!
GY3, I definitely copied the idea from you, although if I remember right you also painted your solenoids engine color so it's even less obvious! I like how it's semi-concealed, somebody just glancing at it won't see that it obviously has nitrous. The progressive screen is on a spare switch blank plate that I can swap in and out, so it can be hidden in the ashtray, and the arm switch is under the dash and behind the wideband so it isn't noticeable when you look in the car. That is a great idea for a secondary fuel system too, I can probably fit it up by the battery in the massive front fender if needed.
Rich- not yet. I just have to put the colder plugs in it, the bottle is filled and I've tested everything, but I wanted to at least get a timeslip out of it if I'm going to risk hurting the rearend or trans, lol.
Edit: the fuel line looped over the top of the upper radiator hose drives me nuts, but I haven't found a C body upper hose yet that is higher so I could route the fuel line underneath it. If the motor ever has to come out I'm going to ceramic coat the headers and repaint it too.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
[Re: Blusmbl]
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Thanks guys!
GY3, I definitely copied the idea from you, although if I remember right you also painted your solenoids engine color so it's even less obvious! I like how it's semi-concealed, somebody just glancing at it won't see that it obviously has nitrous. The progressive screen is on a spare switch blank plate that I can swap in and out, so it can be hidden in the ashtray, and the arm switch is under the dash and behind the wideband so it isn't noticeable when you look in the car. That is a great idea for a secondary fuel system too, I can probably fit it up by the battery in the massive front fender if needed.
Rich- not yet. I just have to put the colder plugs in it, the bottle is filled and I've tested everything, but I wanted to at least get a timeslip out of it if I'm going to risk hurting the rearend or trans, lol.
Edit: the fuel line looped over the top of the upper radiator hose drives me nuts, but I haven't found a C body upper hose yet that is higher so I could route the fuel line underneath it. If the motor ever has to come out I'm going to ceramic coat the headers and repaint it too. You could move the outlet on the rad to the center or use straight hose sections and metal elbows to make the hose pass further forward of the engine. 11's in a C will make you large and in charge.  Kevin
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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I’ll be happy with an 11 anything out of it for sure!
My plan, a few years back, was to just break into the 10's with a baby 150 shot. It surprised the heck out ofme when it ran a 10.69 on a really hot Summer night 
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11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Thanks guys. I'd be ecstatic if I could jet it up and get it into the high 10's, but think it would need a supplemental fuel system for the nitrous and probably a converter swap to do it. It's also still running around on a stock blown out bench seat and original lap belts so it isn't exactly the safest idea to make it much quicker.
If it runs better than I expect maybe I'll take the plunge and put a rollbar in it.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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I’ll be happy with an 11 anything out of it for sure!
My plan, a few years back, was to just break into the 10's with a baby 150 shot. It surprised the heck out ofme when it ran a 10.69 on a really hot Summer night A buddy had a 67 mustang with a mild 428 ran 12.20s. He put a 250 shot Comp-U-car on it, wow 10.57 3 times n a row, never heard it shift just one loud roar down the track. I raced it a few times using it just in third. I blew the engine after a solenoid stuck while dry hopping behind the line. Engine died so after shutting the bottle off and cranking over for 30 seconds figgered it was cleared. Wrong, pow, bent rod, cracked block and head, blew out the head gasket and jacked the head bolts. Won’t use that stuff again!!
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Thanks guys!
Rich- not yet. I just have to put the colder plugs in it, the bottle is filled and I've tested everything, but I wanted to at least get a timeslip out of it if I'm going to risk hurting the rearend or trans, lol.
Look at you all grown up and not immediately cashing the first bottle out on the street! 
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Thanks guys!
Rich- not yet. I just have to put the colder plugs in it, the bottle is filled and I've tested everything, but I wanted to at least get a timeslip out of it if I'm going to risk hurting the rearend or trans, lol.
Look at you all grown up and not immediately cashing the first bottle out on the street! I always test on the street first so I don't oil down the track! ...in front of a crowd.
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'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Look at you all grown up and not immediately cashing the first bottle out on the street! I always test on the street first so I don't oil down the track! ...in front of a crowd. Ok, since you guys both called me out for being old and lame, the wideband bungs are going in this weekend and it will get a couple 2nd and 3rd gear hits on the street first before heading to the track.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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Look at you all grown up and not immediately cashing the first bottle out on the street! I always test on the street first so I don't oil down the track! ...in front of a crowd. Ok, since you guys both called me out for being old and lame, the wideband bungs are going in this weekend and it will get a couple 2nd and 3rd gear hits on the street first before heading to the track. I cringe to think about what AFR numbers I might have ran on my old 360 when it had nitrous. It seems in our 20s my friends and I got a free pass on nitrous for awhile. Way to much nitrous on way to much pump gas lol.
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Re: Thoughts on what to change to run mid 11's?
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I don't have aluminum block 572 money! But... if I ever hurt this one I will build a TF headed 512 stroker for sure.
I cringe to think about what AFR numbers I might have ran on my old 360 when it had nitrous. It seems in our 20s my friends and I got a free pass on nitrous for awhile. Way to much nitrous on way to much pump gas lol.
I know Monte always said that timing is what kills them so I am hopefully OK with the timing retard box set to 8*, but... I really want to monitor it to see how close the tune is on the fuel side, especially running it off the mechanical Carter pump with no regulator, lol How much were you spraying on your old 360?
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