Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 12:15 PM
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Not a plumber but my guess is CPVC - and gas water heaters aren't designed to last 17 years, usually 10-12 i think
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 12:42 PM
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And when they replace it, have them put a) shutoff valves and b) unions on those water lines this time.
Who ever did the install 17 years ago cheaped out just straight-piping it like that. If you ever need to mess with it in the future, shutoff valves and unions make things a lot easier--and only for a few bucks more.
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 01:34 PM
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It looks like my hot water heater is leaking at the connection to the house. 2 questions:
1) Tank is 17yrs old, should I bite the bullet and spend the $500 to replace it myself, or just fix this connector? 2) What kind of connection is it, it's PVC with no give, so how would I remove and replace it? I would replace it, but if it is working just change the fitting. Cut the horizontal pipe near the elbow unscrew the fitting from the water heater. use a thread pipe to sharkbite fitting back on the water heater. Use teflon tape with a little pipe dope over it on the threads. stick in a length of cpvc gauge where the new sharkbite elbow goes by the height of the horizontal pipe. Allow length to insert into shark bite elbow insert length of cpvc into horizontal part of elbow trim horizontal cpvc to length allowing for insert into the shark bite repair union to connect to the horizontal pipe (It is a fitting that allows you to slip it on and the into the other fitting) (Google shark bite repair union)
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 02:53 PM
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And when they replace it, have them put a) shutoff valves and b) unions on those water lines this time.
Who ever did the install 17 years ago cheaped out just straight-piping it like that. If you ever need to mess with it in the future, shutoff valves and unions make things a lot easier--and only for a few bucks more. Shut off valve on the hot water TO the house? Doesn't make sense. All you need is a shut off of the cold to the tank. Once that's shut off there's no hot water pressure to the house.
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 03:33 PM
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wow...I thought nobody used CPVC anymore. That stuff is a leak waiting to happen.
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 04:46 PM
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Shut off valve on the hot water TO the house? Doesn't make sense. All you need is a shut off of the cold to the tank. Once that's shut off there's no hot water pressure to the house.
Comes in handy when swapping the tank - keeps the lines from draining back when you disco the tank. My copper stubs have shuts offs with NPT adapters then braided stainless NPT to NPT hoses to the tank. Kinda like this but with a water heater:
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 10:38 PM
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Shut off valve on the hot water TO the house? Doesn't make sense. All you need is a shut off of the cold to the tank. Once that's shut off there's no hot water pressure to the house.
Comes in handy when swapping the tank - keeps the lines from draining back when you disco the tank. My copper stubs have shuts offs with NPT adapters then braided stainless NPT to NPT hoses to the tank. Kinda like this but with a water heater: When you drain the water heater prior to replacing it, whatever water is in the lines drains back also. I'm not saying a valve on the hot side is a a bad idea, just very unnecessary.
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/23/21 11:42 PM
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Replacing it is the right action but... U better check for the latest pricing, water heaters cost and availability has changed significantly due to increased market demand and Covid.. Just my $0.02...
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/24/21 01:10 AM
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Replacing it is the right action but... U better check for the latest pricing, water heaters cost and availability has changed significantly due to increased market demand and Covid.. Just my $0.02... Especially here in NJ with the recent catastrophic flooding. Our HVAC guys have replaced so many units!
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/24/21 01:12 AM
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wow...I thought nobody used CPVC anymore. That stuff is a leak waiting to happen. Especially on the hot line
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/24/21 06:48 AM
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wow...I thought nobody used CPVC anymore. That stuff is a leak waiting to happen. Especially on the hot line Cpvc is for the hot side only. PVC is for cold. The t and p valve is always plumbed with Cpvc. It’s just so out of date. Everyone uses Pex now. It’s flexible, cheaper than copper and you don’t have to hire a security guard to watch your building site after hours because thieves take it before the slab gets poured.
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/24/21 10:33 AM
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Yes the prices have shot up. I’ve never seen cpvc used like that or a fitting like that. The tank should have two 3/4” male nipples sticking out of the top. They make two types of flexible lines. I use stainless steel flex lines with female ends on both ends. On the hot side, just cut off the cpvc coming out of the wall and glue a 3/4” male adapter to iron pipe fitting. Install the flex line with two female iron pipe ends and your fixed. On the cold side, you need a cutoff. I don’t see one in the picture. I’d glue on another male adapter and install a 3/4” brass ball valve on the pipe coming out of the wall. Put in a 3/4 x 2” brass nipple in the out side of the ball valve. Now you can install the same flex line with two female ends on it as well. Don’t over tighten the lines. They have thick rubber washers inside. The fittings compress the rubber to seal. It does not seal on the threads. Cpvc uses special glue. Let it set up for a couple of hours before you apply pressure to the system. Hope this helps. ^^^^^ This.
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Re: Any plumbers here?
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09/24/21 11:59 AM
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My gas water heater is 32 years old and zero issues. I cook with gas also, approx 28 year old stove....$14 a month and $9 is the service charge. Heat with gas with 30 year old furnace, total bill in the coldest of winter $55.
Id fix it.
I get calls all the time about upgrades to my gas appliances from my gas company but yet every month they send out usage reports vs 100 close neighbors... im always in the top 5%.
A fluke, luck...who knows.
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