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Air shocks\wide tires #2960353
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I know i will hear all about how this is a bad idea, but, in the 70s i had a 70 SE Challenger with air shocks 60s on the back and i drove the hell out of it with no issues.....so. my question is. With air shocks can i fit 50s on 10 inch wheels on the 73 Challenger i am building. I am old school and going for an old school look.. Please i am not interested in the stock look, or 17 s, I had 14 inch on the front with 70s and 15 inch l 60s on the back. I would love to hear from others who are into the old look and what you find that works. pictures would be awesome. Thank you . And to the purists , your cars are beautiful !

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: exile5700] #2960356
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Other than being hard on the shock mounts. Do what you like, it's your car.

No reason it won't work if the tires aren't hitting the wells/lips.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: crackedback] #2960358
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Drove it for 4 years with out any issue, i do not plan on having anyone in the back or anything in the trunk. i know it will ride like crap and handle like crap as well, but i am going cruising in it and at 64 my days of racing it are far gone lol thank you for your reply

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: exile5700] #2960391
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Hey, it is your car. If the old school, nostalgic thing pleases you, go for it. A cheap and easy way to put wider rear tires on your ride. Many of us did it back in the day, including me.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: exile5700] #2960395
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A lot of us did that back when we were young, stupid, and didn't now any better.

If you do go ahead and do it, don't post any pics unless you have thick skin.


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Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: exile5700] #2960428
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The issue is, the shock mounts (especially the uppers) are not designed to support the weight of the car only actuate an oil filled shock.
I have repaired many upper shock mounts in the last 20 years due to wat you wish to do. but hey it's your car twocents beer

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In high school i had a 70 challenger R\T with a set of n50 fifteens on ten inch rims and it worked fine till the air shock hose melted on the tail pipe then i went to coil over shocks with shock extenders. im sure this is bad advice but i love the look of 50's on the back of a challenger,also fyi there is no way 10 inch rims arent going to stick out passed the quarter a little

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: TJP] #2960437
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I believe I would also add the longer rear spring shackles, it will help take the load off of the upper shock mounts. Makes the car a bit more stable too.

I say this because I too have repaired a lot of upper shock mount crossmembers. The ends are about the only thing that keeps them in place, once the side to side shifting breaks the side brackets, it isn't long before the shock mount is no longer attached to the car, and you get to hear it bang side to side every time to go around a corner.

I know I'm going to sound like I disapprove (not true), when you choose your wheels, keep the back spacing to the point the tire is within an inch of the leaf spring. Deep reversed wheels (sticking way out wide) cause issues with the upper shock mount to occur faster. If you do this, make the minor changes to make it last as long as possible, for longer enjoyment of your car. Gene

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: exile5700] #2960501
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I have used air shocks too.

I like to run separate air lines to each shock so that the air won't shift from shock to shock.

Seems to help with stability.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: IMGTX] #2960504
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These cars were daily drivers back in the day and I think the shock mount damage reflects that. For a fun weekend cruiser I think you could go a long time without a problem twocents

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: bobby66] #2960564
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Originally Posted by bobby66
These cars were daily drivers back in the day and I think the shock mount damage reflects that. For a fun weekend cruiser I think you could go a long time without a problem twocents


Mine were daily drivers and some I put over 2000K on air shocks but I didn't crank them up so much that it was jacked way up in the air. I load leveled when towing and picked up an inch or two on the average day.

I think if you pump them up too much, the suspension gets too stiff and the shock mounts suffer faster, but like you said, weekend cruisers probably won't succumb to damage.

Someone mentioned longer rear hangers which would help reduce the need for high shock pressures but if I remember correctly they won't work on an e-body because of the hangers hitting the rear valence.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: bobby66] #2960565
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Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: DaveRS23] #2960755
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I hear ya, i kind of feel the same way when i see all the cookie cutter bought cars. (know)
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Oh i forgot to add that i am running side pipes too...

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Thank you, i have no plan on jacking it to the moon. Just enough to keep tires from rubbing. Thank you for a positive honest opinion.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: bobby66] #2960758
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Thank you,

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Probally will pass on the weed, but will have a CB , FM converter 8 track and a box of tapes... grin

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Thank you, that is a good idea.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: poorboy] #2960761
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Thank you for some solid advice, i appreciate that.

Re: Air shocks\wide tires [Re: kermit1] #2960764
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I will be running side pipes as well so that hopefully will avoid burnt lines.

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Thank you, i appreciate your opinion

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