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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Cab_Burge] #2952421
08/10/21 12:11 PM
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when i switched to comcast for my phone, internet, and tv, i saved a bunch over the separate monthly bills.
however, scotchlok type of connectors were used inside the house on the phone wiring.
those things gave TERRIBLE reception, and i had comcast here on trouble shooting calls quite a few times. flame
i finally gave up on those guys and redid ALL of the phone connections BACK to the old fashioned square blocks with the four screws attaching the phone wires.
the phones work like they SHOULD now !
i hope you can see why i'm not a fan of the scotchlok connectors.
just my opinion. your mileage will vary !
beer

Re: Race Car wiring [Re: moparx] #2952437
08/10/21 12:39 PM
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I use those connectors for many years using the Scotch lock crimpers, I've seen more than one Tel.Co employee crimp them with thieir nine inch pliers, NOT GOOD tskdown
The pliers do not force the blades in the connectors to seat evenly on the wires which can end up creating a high resistance connection which will end up causing problems with noise and no connections sometimes whiney


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Cab_Burge] #2952465
08/10/21 01:37 PM
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want to come to Pa. when i need phone service ? penguinwalk whistling work luck boogie
just kidding ! biggrin
beer

Re: Race Car wiring [Re: moparx] #2952478
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Originally Posted by moparx
want to come to Pa. when i need phone service ? penguinwalk whistling work luck boogie
just kidding ! biggrin
beer


Should be able to find someone local.. Plenty of guys around here wire whole cars with scotch-locs and electrical tape. Just get a big roll of red wire at the auto parts and git-r-dun.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: Race Car wiring [Re: CMcAllister] #2953082
08/12/21 10:27 AM
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Just rewired our dragster with Duestch connectors throughout. IMO just a little cleaner than Weatherpacks, but we have used them plenty on the past, but can get bulky sometimes


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Dragula] #2953099
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Originally Posted by HardcoreB
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
I used Deutsch connectors where ever possible on my Road Runner. So much nicer than Weather pack, or metri pack connectors. I have access to all three at work. I save all the connectors when we scrap out machines, and just buy new pins for them.

x2!


I was wondering if I should switch....I have a pile of weather pack connectors though.

Also, what wire labler & lables are you all using?


I like and use a Brady BMP21 wire labeler most of the time with white nylon/black letters tape, but they make self laminating labels too, they also make shrink tube labels but they can be troublesome.



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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Just-a-dart] #2953101
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I have a Brady also and being able to do the shrink tubing is slick and makes working on the car much easier.



Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Al_Alguire] #2953102
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Just rewired our dragster with Duestch connectors throughout. IMO just a little cleaner than Weatherpacks, but we have used them plenty on the past, but can get bulky sometimes


Al do you know the max wire size for a Duestch connector? Weatherpack spec goes to #10 wire which is handy at times.



Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Jeremiah] #2953167
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Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Al do you know the max wire size for a Duestch connector? Weatherpack spec goes to #10 wire which is handy at times.


A #12 Deutsch will hold a 10 gauge wire. They are available in 2 and 4 pin though. But I cannot imagine what on a racecar would even need a 4 pin 10 gauge wire


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Al_Alguire] #2953176
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Al do you know the max wire size for a Duestch connector? Weatherpack spec goes to #10 wire which is handy at times.


A #12 Deutsch will hold a 10 gauge wire. They are available in 2 and 4 pin though. But I cannot imagine what on a racecar would even need a 4 pin 10 gauge wire


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: CMcAllister] #2953193
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Originally Posted by moparx
want to come to Pa. when i need phone service ? penguinwalk whistling work luck boogie
just kidding ! biggrin
beer


Should be able to find someone local.. Plenty of guys around here wire whole cars with scotch-locs and electrical tape. Just get a big roll of red wire at the auto parts and git-r-dun.


The best one ever was my buddy's '65 Mustang that was wired entirely in yellow wire. It was hilarious trying to troubleshoot anything until he finally ripped it out.



Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Al_Alguire] #2953294
08/12/21 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Just rewired our dragster with Duestch connectors throughout. IMO just a little cleaner than Weatherpacks, but we have used them plenty on the past, but can get bulky sometimes


The price of admission for Deutsch - including parts, tools, etc - causes some to have second thoughts. Expensive tools to do your car and then throw them in the tool box.


If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Dragula] #2953420
08/13/21 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Al do you know the max wire size for a Duestch connector? Weatherpack spec goes to #10 wire which is handy at times.


A #12 Deutsch will hold a 10 gauge wire. They are available in 2 and 4 pin though. But I cannot imagine what on a racecar would even need a 4 pin 10 gauge wire


Two 27 amp fans....(Street/strip car)


Maybe you need better quality wire....


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: CMcAllister] #2953422
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
Just rewired our dragster with Duestch connectors throughout. IMO just a little cleaner than Weatherpacks, but we have used them plenty on the past, but can get bulky sometimes


The price of admission for Deutsch - including parts, tools, etc - causes some to have second thoughts. Expensive tools to do your car and then throw them in the tool box.



Well we all know I have had many cars and will have more not to mention the work we do for others. Yep its not the cheap way out but neither is a Bryant crank when a Callies crank will do or why bother there when an Eagle does the same thing


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Al_Alguire] #2953629
08/14/21 01:33 AM
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I'm going to have to dig out one of my old college books on direct current to get the formula to figure out what size gauge wire is proper (maybe use the next gauge bigger for insurance) to use to wire my new drag car scope


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Re: Race Car wiring [Re: Cab_Burge] #2953786
08/14/21 04:50 PM
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Cab, will this work for you ?
beer

i need to try again...........

Last edited by moparx; 08/14/21 05:23 PM. Reason: a goof on my part
Re: Race Car wiring [Re: moparx] #2953861
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