Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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Obvious questions, proper width belt?
Proper tension?
Alternator spin freely with belt off?
Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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08/03/21 06:00 PM
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Good questions. This Jeep sits for 10 months a year ( I only use it for hunting ) so it only gets a few hundred miles a year on it so I've let the alt belt squeal for quite a while (over 10 years) but now I'm tired of it Correct belt width I believe. It's had a couple of different belts on it over the years and the top of the belt is close to flush with the pulleys outer circumference. I even replaced the alternator a couple of years ago with a new one to verify it wasn't the alternator or pulley. The volt gauge shows ~12 volts while it's squealing and jumps up to ~14 when it stops, which makes sense.
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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I've tried multiple levels of "tightness" over the years. I've had that belt tight enough to use as a banjo string and still no joy. Right now it has very little deflection when pressing on the belt in the middle of the span.
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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Could be the alternator does not have an exciter. Look at the gauge and I bet the it starts charging when the squeeling stops. If this the case there are a few remedies, Jeep used a red discharge light as an exciter for years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l2qro7PLIY
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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You're correct, the gauge shows it's charging once the squealing stops. I'll take a look at the exciter to learn more about it.
Thanks for the idea. The squealing is from it slipping. If it was an field excited style it would not squeal as there would be no load at that time. Next time start it rev it up two or three times. Shut it off and feel the pulley for heat. If its hot its slipping. Tighten it some more and see what it does. I guarantee I could have it stopped in 5 minutes. The 304 is hard to get the belt tight.
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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Check the alignment of the belt.
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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You're correct, the gauge shows it's charging once the squealing stops. I'll take a look at the exciter to learn more about it.
Thanks for the idea. The squealing is from it slipping. If it was an field excited style it would not squeal as there would be no load at that time. Next time start it rev it up two or three times. Shut it off and feel the pulley for heat. If its hot its slipping. Tighten it some more and see what it does. I guarantee I could have it stopped in 5 minutes. The 304 is hard to get the belt tight. I'm confident that it is slipping but I don't know why. I thought maybe it was calling for too much of a charge for some reason or ??? I'm not the best mechanic out there and there are a lot of folks in the board that know much more than I do, that's why I ask the questions, but I do know how to properly tighten a belt. In fact, as I mentioned before, I have overtightened it using pry bars and it still squeals most of the time. I'll rub some more bar soap on in it and call it good for another couple of years
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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08/05/21 05:52 PM
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You're correct, the gauge shows it's charging once the squealing stops. I'll take a look at the exciter to learn more about it.
Thanks for the idea. The squealing is from it slipping. If it was an field excited style it would not squeal as there would be no load at that time. Next time start it rev it up two or three times. Shut it off and feel the pulley for heat. If its hot its slipping. Tighten it some more and see what it does. I guarantee I could have it stopped in 5 minutes. The 304 is hard to get the belt tight. I'm confident that it is slipping but I don't know why. I thought maybe it was calling for too much of a charge for some reason or ??? I'm not the best mechanic out there and there are a lot of folks in the board that know much more than I do, that's why I ask the questions, but I do know how to properly tighten a belt. In fact, as I mentioned before, I have overtightened it using pry bars and it still squeals most of the time. I'll rub some more bar soap on in it and call it good for another couple of years Mark the adjustment slot where the bolt sits. Now loosen it and pry the alternator a little and tighten it. If it still squeals go a little more till it quits squealing.
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Re: Alternator belt will not stop squealing
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Is this a standard Stock application? Make sure you pulley alignment is good. I have head there can be some variation on belt angles due to our metric conversion I have also heard that several have had luck going to a "cogged" belt. I do know that they recommend taking the tension off mower deck belts when storing for extended periods or the belt will stretch Give gates a call and pester one of their tech people keep us posted
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