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Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side #2949348
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Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: DaveRS23] #2949368
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Nobody ever points out that if a crankshaft is going to bend under its own weight, it is more likely to bend when standing up than laying down. When a crank is laying down it is supported at multiple locations by the counterweights. When it is standing up all the weight is supported by the last main.

Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: AndyF] #2949374
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Randy Winberg who makes some of the best crankshafts in the world, told me it did not matter how a crankshaft was stored.

That is good enough for me.

Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: 340Cuda] #2949393
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
Randy Winberg who makes some of the best crankshafts in the world, told me it did not matter how a crankshaft was stored.

That is good enough for me.


I went with a buddy to Callies to pick up his crank and their inventory was all laying sideways on pallets. shruggy

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Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: fourgearsavoy] #2949399
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It's a lot easier for a crank to fall over and be damaged (or damage someone's foot!) if it's standing on end work

Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: 340Cuda] #2949424
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
Randy Winberg who makes some of the best crankshafts in the world, told me it did not matter how a crankshaft was stored.

That is good enough for me.


I don't need anyone to tell me that storing a crankshaft on its side is fine, I can figure that out by just looking at it. The mains are 3 inches thick and just a few inches long. A steel bar that size cannot be bent by a few pounds of load. The topic is silly but it pops up on a regular basis.

Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: AndyF] #2949448
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Always was amused by this. In theory just flip it like a burger and let it sit for the same amount of time on the other side to straighten it.

I wonder if I built crank storage rotisseries, would they sell? laugh

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Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot

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Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot


There is some truth to that. Not so much as the earth is ground but concrete generally has a dampness. Supposedly a battery that is wet from the dampness allows a conductivity between the posts causing a minuscule draw.

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Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by TJP
Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot


There is some truth to that. Not so much as the earth is ground but concrete generally has a dampness. Supposedly a battery that is wet from the dampness allows a conductivity between the posts causing a minuscule draw.


That was true back in the old days when batteries didn't have plastic cases.

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Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: AndyF] #2949579
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by TJP
Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot


There is some truth to that. Not so much as the earth is ground but concrete generally has a dampness. Supposedly a battery that is wet from the dampness allows a conductivity between the posts causing a minuscule draw.


That was true back in the old days when batteries didn't have plastic cases.


What were the cases made out of? I know of rubber and possibly bakelite. Both just as good or better insulator as plastic.

The biggest threat when storing a crank is rust and damage from getting knocked around. I spray mine with cosmoline and made storage crates. Of couse this is only ones im putting in long term storage.

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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by TJP
Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot


There is some truth to that. Not so much as the earth is ground but concrete generally has a dampness. Supposedly a battery that is wet from the dampness allows a conductivity between the posts causing a minuscule draw.


That was true back in the old days when batteries didn't have plastic cases.


iagree


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Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: DaveRS23] #2949776
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by TJP
Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot


There is some truth to that. Not so much as the earth is ground but concrete generally has a dampness. Supposedly a battery that is wet from the dampness allows a conductivity between the posts causing a minuscule draw.


That was true back in the old days when batteries didn't have plastic cases.


iagree


Also implying that damp concrete is a more attractive conductor than a steel tray the battery sits on in the car for its intended life that is directly connected to the battery's negative terminal? eyes

I think the recalled "theory" above is inaccurate, concrete was implicated most often when charging a battery, and the correct issue there is, the heavier than air moist sulfuric fumes from the charging process corroded the nearby concrete, had nothing to do with the battery.

And I store my cranks on a rotisserie grin.

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Re: Cool discussion on laying a crankshaft on it's side [Re: MoparMike1974] #2949791
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Originally Posted by MoparMike1974
Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by TJP
Don't forget about not setting batteries on concrete as it will drain them because earth is ground whistling stirthepot


There is some truth to that. Not so much as the earth is ground but concrete generally has a dampness. Supposedly a battery that is wet from the dampness allows a conductivity between the posts causing a minuscule draw.


That was true back in the old days when batteries didn't have plastic cases.


What were the cases made out of? I know of rubber and possibly bakelite. Both just as good or better insulator as plastic.

The biggest threat when storing a crank is rust and damage from getting knocked around. I spray mine with cosmoline and made storage crates. Of couse this is only ones im putting in long term storage.


Early batteries were fairly crude. The model T used wood cases for some electrical devices. Tar was used, maybe bakelite. I'm not an expert on early battery design but it wasn't a good idea to store them on a cold, damp concrete pad back in the day. I don't think there is any issue storing a modern battery on a concrete floor but I never do it. If I have a spare battery I keep it on a wood shelf.

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Hmm. My crankshafts must be longer then. I have a crank rack that they hang from the flange. So maybe my flange is warped though. They don’t fall over though.

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This topic totally went off topic. Well back to the topic. So, either standing the crank up or lying down is ok then.

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Originally Posted by GMP440
This topic totally went off topic. Well back to the topic. So, either standing the crank up or lying down is ok then.



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Originally Posted by GMP440
This topic totally went off topic. Well back to the topic. So, either standing the crank up or lying down is ok then.


laugh2 It did on the 'bullet, too which is why I posted it. There is no new information in that thread or this one. It is just interesting to see where the conversations go.


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