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Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: Rhinodart] #2946920
07/25/21 10:58 AM
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That is valuable additional information about the “Torque Convertor Overrunning Clutch” CEL warning.

Perhaps Mopar OEM Torque Convertors should be routinely changed out at 150,000 miles, or at least on on 66RFE automatics
to allow the rest of the transmission components to last +280,000 miles.

Some of the “Automated Manual Transmissions” act similar to automatics but do not have torque converters,
but I have not heard of any of the AMT’s going over 250,000 miles before rebuilds, but perhaps some have.

Does the “fine print” of your Lifetime Powertrain Warranty say anything about whether
the owner of the warranty can insist that a suspect part be replaced if a CEL has occurred naming that part and stored in PCM memory?

Or more simply: does the warranty fine print say that only physically broken parts will be replaced?

I would kind of bet that that the warranty language must say:
worn parts that could soon cause an accident with injury or fatality MUST BE REPLACED without delay.

Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: 360view] #2946931
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Does the Chrysler Tech Center still get sent computer data from dealerships on when vehicle components fail?

Would some employee at the Chrysler Tech Center be able to tell you
the average number of miles that 90% of torque converters exceed without failure (L90 value)
and the average number of miles that 50% of torque converters exceed without failure (L50 value)

My fuzzy memory is that somewhere in Ebugger’s magazine write up of the then new 4.7 V8 he mentions that the Tech Center assured him the 90% of the 4.7 V8s would live beyond a certain number of vehicle miles or engine hours.

Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: HotRodDave] #2947100
07/25/21 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I hate mopar reman transmissions, I have pulled apart 48REs with V8 planataries in the OD section and all kinds of weird junk, seems they just grab parts out of a big ole bin and if they physically fit they just throw it in there. I would find someone that knows that specific trans very well and have them build me one, it should still be cheaper than injectors on a duramax.


The Chrysler tech that fixed our 604 that was in limp mode in 1993 at 20,000 miles said the same thing about remans, if the pan is not full of metal always fix what you have. He found a bad clutch pack snapring and this trans is at 220,000 with only 2 fluid changes.

I always wondered if a spin on oil filter in the cooler return line would be smart, it may not matter because if the converter fails there will be so much trash that the filter will plug and wipe out the rear support and gears. It seems the deep pans with the pickup that is an inch or so off the bottom is the best solution.

Just think of the poor guy that gets the remains of your 280,000 miles trans, no way it will be a good trans, always hated parts bin mismatched parts trans, I would find one that is working with clean fluid and build that.

Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: 360view] #2947167
07/25/21 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 360view
Does the Chrysler Tech Center still get sent computer data from dealerships on when vehicle components fail?

Would some employee at the Chrysler Tech Center be able to tell you
the average number of miles that 90% of torque converters exceed without failure (L90 value)
and the average number of miles that 50% of torque converters exceed without failure (L50 value)

My fuzzy memory is that somewhere in Ebugger’s magazine write up of the then new 4.7 V8 he mentions that the Tech Center assured him the 90% of the 4.7 V8s would live beyond a certain number of vehicle miles or engine hours.


Interesting, I am calling Chrysler tomorrow to ask them what they think as it has been two weeks now since it broke with no compensation or repair. I believe I will be on the phone for a few hours tomorrow... work


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Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: Rhinodart] #2950073
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So no update?


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Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: 340SIX] #2950200
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Been over three weeks now and finally got a call from Ram customer service. They found the part, which is the clutch plate, and they are having it expedited but it will take 3-5 business days for them to get it to the dealer who took my transmission apart in Bedford, PA! So I might actually see the truck around the time I am supposed to go to the Mopar Nationals, hopefully I can get it before then, but I am not holding my breath. They will not pay for my trip interruption, the rental of the U-Haul van, or any other expenses because my truck is over the 100,000 mile limit of my lifetime powertrain warranty. I doubt I will have any recourse... mad


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Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: Guitar Jones] #2951247
08/06/21 11:17 PM
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Well it got repaired today and they took it for a long drive and all is good, just have to get it back 600 miles west! I did get a call from Chrysler who said they will ship it to my house on their dime! eek Not sure when that will happen, but if I don't hear anything by Monday I will just go get it...


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Re: Truck ate another transmission... [Re: Guitar Jones] #2951395
08/07/21 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
Originally Posted by poorboy
I doubt the GM trans will work out any better for you, I hear lots of bad things about them as well, but the GM guys don't complain on line when their stuff fails. I think they sort of expect it to fail, so when it does, its expected.

Dang that's funny


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