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Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: SRT6776] #2946859
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Originally Posted by SRT6776
Originally Posted by Frank Cannon
Originally Posted by 1972CudaV21
Originally Posted by Guitar Jones
It's just not the same. Yes it hauls azz but it's not the brutal visceral experience of a 60's to early 70's muscle car. It's more of an apples to oranges comparison.


Sure, it’s not the same. But, when any old lady can run in the 9’s with her factory 4-door Tesla, it makes our “muscle” look very slow in comparison. What’s next for Telsa? 8-second, 7-second cars off the showroom floor? The times are exponentially changing.

Post a vid of a Tesla running 9.99

9.20's


call it what u will...920's is fast......

Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: massdaytona] #2946883
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In terms of vintage cars, I think the L88 and ZL1 engines would dyno above most all others. “Most power”

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Interesting I don't see any mention of the 2018 Demon which seems to me to meet the criteria of a muscle car and with 840hp ...


addict:to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively ....hmmmm
Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: Butterscotch71] #2946938
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Originally Posted by Butterscotch71
Interesting I don't see any mention of the 2018 Demon which seems to me to meet the criteria of a muscle car and with 840hp ...
I agree. Lots of Chebby guys here.


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Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: massdaytona] #2947202
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Sure, it’s not the same. But, when any old lady can run in the 9’s with her factory 4-door Tesla, it makes our “muscle” look very slow in comparison. What’s next for Telsa? 8-second, 7-second cars off the showroom floor? The times are exponentially changing.


Like calling an Apple Macintosh not a Personal Computer cause it can't access the internet as fast as an AlienWare PC.
She'll still won't be a "Gear Head".
Many will "get" the term, sadly some won't

Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: massdaytona] #2947203
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Originally Posted by massdaytona
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driving a hemi/6pk/ls6 cross-country.... u do have deep pockets

They weren't Made, Nor Marketed, for Griswald family to go to Wally World.
So moot point

read the original post... i stated stop lite to stop lite... someone wrote cross country... hence the comment of 'deep-pockets'... gotta read...


I did read entire post. Was replying to a later comment made.
Hemi/6Pk weren't for "comfort". A Tesla:Yes for both perf..& comfort.
Was that wrong?.

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How about we take a hemi/6pack/ls6/etc and race a tesla cross country?

Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: PhillyRag] #2947213
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I didn't realize the Plaid Tesla's were released yet. They have either been released or someone has heavily modified a Tesla here Locally. There was one at the "Midnight Drags" here that ran a 9.53 with a horrible 1.59 60ft. A friend of mine posted the video and time slip on facebook, he said it was a plaid model.

There was also a Tesla that did Drag Week 2019, 5 days of racing and it averaged a 10.5 something.

That is cool, and that is fast, but it would get boring. Likely anyone who can hold a steering wheel could run that time because the car does all the work.


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Originally Posted by Bad340fish
I didn't realize the Plaid Tesla's were released yet. They have either been released or someone has heavily modified a Tesla here Locally. There was one at the "Midnight Drags" here that ran a 9.53 with a horrible 1.59 60ft. A friend of mine posted the video and time slip on facebook, he said it was a plaid model.

There was also a Tesla that did Drag Week 2019, 5 days of racing and it averaged a 10.5 something.

That is cool, and that is fast, but it would get boring. Likely anyone who can hold a steering wheel could run that time because the car does all the work.


Someone probably said the same thing in their horse and buggy when they saw a model T. Something I've noticed with cars is everything that takes work and is cool (fast drag cars) becomes factory, so this evolution is no different. I also believe the recent stick shift, light and good handling gas cars (Viper ACR, TA, Boss 302, GT350, 1LE Camaros etc) will be the money cars in the future because people will buy them to use on the road courses for weekend fun. Vintage muscle will be expolited, 3d printed and plopped on EV chassis in great numbers

Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: SRT6776] #2947292
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From Motor Trend review of Tesla Model S Plaid. Sounds like it would be near impossible to actually race another car when in "Drag Strip" mode.

How Quick Is The Model S Plaid On A Prepped Surface?
No matter the surface, to get the quickest launch from a 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid, you must dive into the car's infotainment system and select Drag Strip mode. Over the next eight to 15 minutes (the time needed varies), the car preconditions the powertrain for hard acceleration, heating or cooling the battery as needed and chilling the motors.

Once you've enabled Drag Strip mode, quickly chirp the tires on the VHT—at Famoso, it was caked on so thick it very nearly pulled our shoes off—by stabbing the throttle to clear any debris from the tires. To engage launch control, push hard on the brake, press the accelerator to the floor, and wait. Over the next nine or so seconds, the Model S' nose drops into the Plaid's "cheetah stance." When the final "launch control ready" message is displayed, firmly press your noggin against the headrest (trust us), release the brake, and hang on.

The Model S Plaid zips down the quarter mile in a staggeringly quick 9.25 seconds at 152.6 mph. The run from 0 to 60 mph happens just 1.98 seconds after the brutally hard launch. The Plaid covers distance so quickly, it's difficult to even register what's happening. The yoke gets light in your hands, your neck muscles strain as your helmeted head digs into the headrest, and your surroundings blur into mere shapes and colors as a quarter mile of pavement vanishes underneath you.



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Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: 340Cuda] #2947319
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
Over the next nine or so seconds, the Model S' nose drops into the Plaid's "cheetah stance." When the final "launch control ready" message is displayed, firmly press your noggin against the headrest (trust us), release the brake, and hang on.


So much for reaction time. whistling


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Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: John_Kunkel] #2947325
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Electric cars are not allowed to race against gas powered cars at the local strip here. I think test and tunes they are ok? Anyone else have it differently where they live?

Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: 340Cuda] #2947327
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Watch the vid... Over the next eight to 15 minutes (the time needed varies), the car preconditions the powertrain for hard acceleration, heating or cooling the battery as needed and chilling the motors.

The new one did it in what seems under a minute, the old model took the longer time.





Originally Posted by 340Cuda
From Motor Trent review of Tesla Model S Plaid. Sounds like it would be near impossible to actually race another car when in "Drag Strip" mode.

How Quick Is The Model S Plaid On A Prepped Surface?
No matter the surface, to get the quickest launch from a 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid, you must dive into the car's infotainment system and select Drag Strip mode. Over the next eight to 15 minutes (the time needed varies), the car preconditions the powertrain for hard acceleration, heating or cooling the battery as needed and chilling the motors.

Once you've enabled Drag Strip mode, quickly chirp the tires on the VHT—at Famoso, it was caked on so thick it very nearly pulled our shoes off—by stabbing the throttle to clear any debris from the tires. To engage launch control, push hard on the brake, press the accelerator to the floor, and wait. Over the next nine or so seconds, the Model S' nose drops into the Plaid's "cheetah stance." When the final "launch control ready" message is displayed, firmly press your noggin against the headrest (trust us), release the brake, and hang on.

The Model S Plaid zips down the quarter mile in a staggeringly quick 9.25 seconds at 152.6 mph. The run from 0 to 60 mph happens just 1.98 seconds after the brutally hard launch. The Plaid covers distance so quickly, it's difficult to even register what's happening. The yoke gets light in your hands, your neck muscles strain as your helmeted head digs into the headrest, and your surroundings blur into mere shapes and colors as a quarter mile of pavement vanishes underneath you.




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I wonder if they are trying to engineer some of these prep procedures out.

Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: 340Cuda] #2947380
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
From Motor Trent review of Tesla Model S Plaid. Sounds like it would be near impossible to actually race another car when in "Drag Strip" mode.

How Quick Is The Model S Plaid On A Prepped Surface?
No matter the surface, to get the quickest launch from a 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid, you must dive into the car's infotainment system and select Drag Strip mode. Over the next eight to 15 minutes (the time needed varies), the car preconditions the powertrain for hard acceleration, heating or cooling the battery as needed and chilling the motors.

Once you've enabled Drag Strip mode, quickly chirp the tires on the VHT—at Famoso, it was caked on so thick it very nearly pulled our shoes off—by stabbing the throttle to clear any debris from the tires. To engage launch control, push hard on the brake, press the accelerator to the floor, and wait. Over the next nine or so seconds, the Model S' nose drops into the Plaid's "cheetah stance." When the final "launch control ready" message is displayed, firmly press your noggin against the headrest (trust us), release the brake, and hang on.

The Model S Plaid zips down the quarter mile in a staggeringly quick 9.25 seconds at 152.6 mph. The run from 0 to 60 mph happens just 1.98 seconds after the brutally hard launch. The Plaid covers distance so quickly, it's difficult to even register what's happening. The yoke gets light in your hands, your neck muscles strain as your helmeted head digs into the headrest, and your surroundings blur into mere shapes and colors as a quarter mile of pavement vanishes underneath you.




By the time all that has happened that Hellcat that pulled up next you would have had time to burn 3/4 of a tank of gas lol.


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You do that once getting to the strip, not before each pass. And its probably a good thing it takes time to set up kill mode on the street

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It has four 245 wide tires, it is 4 wheel drive, it weighs 4700 pounds without driver.

245's have what, 8 inches of tread, maybe roughly equivalent to two 16-inch wide slicks ??

So that's the coefficient of friction argument.

That's still a heavy car.

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Re: Most powerful muscle car [Re: SRT6776] #2947642
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I still see nothing there that I would ever aspire to own.

Teslas and all the other EV's are for the people who must have the most current smart phone because they think they "must have it" because they saw it advertised and it must be better because the ad said it was. laugh2


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
I still see nothing there that I would ever aspire to own.

Teslas and all the other EV's are for the people who must have the most current smart phone because they think they "must have it" because they saw it advertised and it must be better because the ad said it was. laugh2
I agree


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Originally Posted by SNK-EYZ
I still see nothing there that I would ever aspire to own.

Teslas and all the other EV's are for the people who must have the most current smart phone because they think they "must have it" because they saw it advertised and it must be better because the ad said it was. laugh2


Or for people who see the handwriting on the wall.


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