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Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels #2941516
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I have a couple of cracks and one small piece broken off an interior rear side panel in my '69 convertible and am looking for experiences and opinions on how to repair without actually making the damage worse. Several years ago, I had a good result on a similar project hiring an experienced plastic welder but I have had no luck finding a shop or an individual with that skill where I now live. Any experience out there using an off-the-shelf epoxy adhesive (or similar) that would work for a "DIY' fix? I'm getting closer and closer to sending it off to a qualified plastic welder but kinda nervous about shipping damage. Would appreciate ideas.....

Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: 69gtxvert] #2941542
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what type of plastic are the panels made of, and are you doing a crack repair that is adding a type of support behind the crack that won't be seen once installed, or repairing the crack on the front side that will require a texture match to the panel surface ?
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Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: moparx] #2941544
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Would a fiberglass repair on the back side work? Will that stick to the plastic? My 68 Dart rear panels are a hard rigid plastic like an E-body console. I assume a 69 B is the same?

Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: burdar] #2941556
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It has to be something similar...probably the same but I don't know what type of plastic that is which is one of the reasons I'm so hesitant with DIY fix. The plastic welding I had done a few years ago was all done on the back side as you guys have already mentioned. Hadn't considered the fiberglass idea.

Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: 69gtxvert] #2941564
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I's probably ABS. If you wipe a little acetone on the back of the panel and you get plastic on the rag that will confirm if it's a butyl type of plastic. If it is you can use regular ABS cement or even acetone and a reinforcing strip of ABS plastic on the back side.

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Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: steve70] #2941565
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Thanks....will check this next week when I'm back in town and have access to the part.

Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: 69gtxvert] #2942131
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Eastwood sells the plastic welding kit with the wire inserts... Hot stapler I think. My body and paint guy did a 71 Cuda lower grill for me a few years ago. I bought a flawless piece from a Delaware dealer. It arrived with a broken piece and a major crack. After a brief negotiation about the price paid, my guy said he could fix it. I couldn't find the fix afterwards.

Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: Vert] #2944012
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If you do a search Scott Smith used some spare extra material melted it and used it to patch and or weld ABS.
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Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: 69gtxvert] #2944957
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Originally Posted by 69gtxvert
I have a couple of cracks and one small piece broken off an interior rear side panel in my '69 convertible and am looking for experiences and opinions on how to repair without actually making the damage worse.


How structurally strong does the repair have to be? In case this is useful:
I had a '67 side panel with a hairline crack from the lower edge near it's mounting bracket, extending up about 4inches. One of those situations where the crack would disappear if I just pushed the sides together. I'd say it was Medium structural. Anyway, I used Super Glue - cyanoacrylate. I applied the liquid to the back, and let the glue weep into the hairline crack, and it set up nice. Not visible from the front. But you gotta be careful if it oozes to the front surface, because wiping it will leave a streak.

Let us know what type of plastic you find, I swear mine has fibers embedded in it, but it's def not traditional epoxy resin fiberglass. I think Mopar put fibers it the plastic to control shrinking and cracks.
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Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: steve70] #2944963
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Originally Posted by steve70
I's probably ABS. If you wipe a little acetone on the back of the panel and you get plastic on the rag that will confirm if it's a butyl type of plastic. If it is you can use regular ABS cement or even acetone and a reinforcing strip of ABS plastic on the back side.


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Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2945088
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Loctite makes an adhesive that i have found works extremely well on most plastics. Way stranger that anything else I've used. A friend recommended it to me so i tried it. So far, I'm really impressed beer

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Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: TJP] #2945249
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Look up places that sell or fabricate using acrylic (plexiglass). They will have Methylene Chloride which is what is used to fuse acrylic, polycarb and ABS. Commonly sold as "Weld-on". Done properly the joint is stronger than the base plastic. The advantage of using this product is that it does not haze or leave the white residue like crazy glue does. The stuff is as thin as water so you can apply it from the back side and it will creep into the finest crack. Any excess evaporates - its a chemical, not an adhesive. You'll need to buy the applicator bottle and needles as well. Once the cracks are fix you could reinforce the area with some scrap abs (pulled from a wreck in a wrecking yard).

Re: Repair Options For Rear Plastic Convertible Side Panels [Re: TJP] #2945553
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Originally Posted by TJP
Way stranger that anything else I've used. beer


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67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23
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67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd
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82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle
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77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF
07 Aston Martin DB9 6.0L DOHC V12 6spd transaxle






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