Seller claims it is an original Road Runner
225 /6
sent me this photo!
Looks like b.s. to me but I dont know these cars that well

I've never seen that label applied to a Slant6 car.
A few minutes on Google - out of curiosity myself - and it's not really clear, even on Allpar:
1. One site says 318 or 360 on '79 RR
2. 3 sites say RR was just a trim package.
3. 3 sites show the 225 as standard, but none specifically say NA RR.
So my guess is it may have been possible, but without a VIN character or Broadcast Sheet, hard to prove.
Maybe it's mentioned in the new car brochure ?
There was a 2-bbl option for the 225, with larger exhaust; didn't know that.
Either way, it seems odd, and Seller would be wise to have documentation; order form, window sticker, or broadcast sheet.

interesting

I am fairly certain one of the guys on the Slant 6 board had those printed up for some racers years ago.

I mean, what kind of special equipment came from the factory in '79 on a Slant? Nothing.

What year did the "super 6" with the 2bbl carb make its entrance?

II was seriously looking at buying a new 78 (or 79) Aspen RT, with it, a 318 4 bbl was an option, the biggest motor option was a 360, but it was a 2bbl carb. The single barrel slant 6 was the base line motor, with the Super ^ being the 1st option, followed by a 3118 2bbl, then the 318 4 bbl and the top of the line 360 2bbl. HP options from any car company back in those days was pretty limited. High gas prices and the insurance industry had the car companies in a strangle hold.
Fortunately, I decided against buying the Aspen RT, good thing too, about 3 months later I was unemployed!

The 2bbl Slant appeared in the 76 or 7 F body.

I looked at a 77 RR in the showroom. It had a 318 2bbl and the OD 833. Probably a rare but not necessarily valuable car. Someone had ordered it then choked up. I imagine it rusted to the ground.

Some jackwagon is really having a laugh at the expense of others.

The Super6 was not that special. Its an emissions/smog motor by design and said so by mopar, ever look close at the intake/exhaust setup?

Yall remember the "Spencer Gifts" and all the novelty and knock off stickers.

Hell, give me 20 minutes and I can whip up some for a 340 or a 383 or that monster 566 inch hemi they only made six of.

Just a play off the real one.

It was a play on the Max Wedge sticker. I think someone wanted them for a Hyper Pak clone. (The HP stuff wasn't "factory", it was dealer installed or bought as a kit)

Nothing says a fellow didn't just add the stripe kit and a set of Rallye's to an otherwise basic Volare coupe. The car is over 40 years old, things have most definitely been changed on it since it was new. I've seen so many "children" post pictures asking if glaringly obvious aftermarket parts were available as options. They just don't know that there was an actual automobile aftermarket before their appearance on this planet.

My favorite one is when the obviously uninitiated use words they don't understand. Case in point, there's a fellow over on the AMC board who's a nice enough fellow but will pontificate needlessly on the fact that his '74 Javelin has an AM/8-track multiplex stereo. I've tried to mention to him that he's using the term 'multiplex' wrong. Multiplex is for the FM band and refers to the fact that it can receive both FM mono and FM stereo signals. The AM-ONLY with 8-track tape cannot do that as it does not receive FM signals. There's no multiplexing going on.

But.... you'll never be able to explain that to this guy because he's owned the car since new. I've told him that's irrelevant but then he just gets pissy.

Every hobby seems to have these 'experts'.

How many 440 Hemi's are out there? Or Six-pack 383's?? You'll argue 'til your death with these boneheads.

I'm still wondering why anyone would even consider buying this? The "real" Road Runners died in 1974.

Because Aspen Super Coupes only / mostly came in brown?

....fixed


Im pretty sure the F body roadruners were only a trim package. A friend of mine had one and im pretty sure it was a slant car as well.

I would have to disagree with you on that. I would take an F Body RR with an E58 over a '74 B Body. The F Body with the E58 was pretty darn peppy for the era and that particular 360 was really built tough and probably would beat any '74 RR performance wise, handling/acceleration etc.

Well actually i would say more like 72 but the 74's still could be had with big blocks. The Road Runner was marketed as the poor mans muscle car. A big block was standard(383)! After 72 that went out the window. By 79 they where grasping at straws to try to sell vehicles so a 6 cylinder RR is not surprising. As far as I'm concerned, [censored] where they thinking?

According to this, looks like the Road Runner package was exclusive to V8s only.




Cuz my F body version with a built 360 would run low 12s @ 120 in Denver and did it for less than the purchase of a basket case, rust bucket, roached out, 1969 Runner needing an entire restoration.

One thing I think we can agree on, 75 was not the high water mark for RR's.

I think they were pretty good for what they were...

Different car. Fairly confident that aint factory!

it was a trim package, had the slant in plenty of them. it usually was ordered by the dealer for their inventory with the 318 but some had the slanty

I guess never having lived through the muscle era, I don't quite understand the disdain for the "Disco"-era cars. Specifically: Cobra II, Hornet AMX, Volare/RoadRunner, Aspen R/T, Monza Spyder.
They're all pretty cool cars and are very much a sign of their times. Are they fast? No. No question about it. But there are a lot of 50's and 60's cars out there that aren't fast either and they're more popular than ever!! Not every vehicle needs to do a 9-second quarter mile. Some people just like to drive and have a funky car to drive in.

My name is Darrin. I like wire wheel covers, vinyl tops, tan interiors, fender flares and 8-track players. I'm here because I've been told I have a problem.

You see, the problem was, in the late 60s and into the early 70s the muscle cars were actually fast, and powerful. Very fun to drive, and consumed a lot of cheap gas. Then in 1974, Insurance companies were trying to kill performance cars, the EPA started choking them. gas prices more then doubled overnight, and we actually ran into a time when there were days we couldn't even buy gas, even at 2x the price it was 6 months before. Most family budgets couldn't fund feeding the muscle cars, the new car sales tanked, everyone that was buying a new car wanted something that got better gas mileage. Detroit (The center of the car industry at the time), responded, but it took a couple years before the response actually hit the show rooms. By that time, most of the muscle car problems were history, except the now powerful insurance industry, and the newly empowered EPA.. Unfortunately, all Detroit had to offer were choked down (thanks to the EPA), lower power cars that got slightly better gas mileage. Those new cars were not fun to drive, compared to the cars offered only 2-3 years before. New car sales still were pretty low.

Detroit, in their infinite wisdom decided that reviving the not so long gone muscle car names would bring people back into the showroom. It did to a certain level, but those new car buyers soon learned that the new version of the old muscle car name plates were not the muscle cars of recent history. Some were content with having a muscle car nameplate on a new car that got slightly better gas mileage, and were slightly more powerful the the non-muscle car name plate editions of the same car, but it was a hard sell to the real performance car guys. It took several years before Detroit could muster much more power out of the new era of performance cars, and most of those were downsized turbo charged versions with again revived muscle car name plates..

The real performance minded guys that lived through those times never really accepted the late 70s disco era name plate muscle cars, nor did many accept the 90s downsized turbocharged muscle car name plate cars. Its gotten to the point that every time the car companies revive the muscle car name plates, most of the guys that lived through the disco era think "Here we go again!"

Its kind of like the response from most of the guys here when some speak of the current name plate performance electric cars. Acceptance may never fully come from those that remember the original muscle cars, or those that enjoy the current Hell Cats and what ever durative they come as. If the current crop of performance cars disappeared next year, and it took 5 years before something came along at 1/2 the power, with the same revived name plate, how do you think the guys current owners would respond to the new version? Gene

Just a,FYI the guy who loved across from.my dad's home bought a 4 door F body slant super six as it was a beer deal than the 318.
Salesmen and Dealer wanted it gone so he got a smoking deal.
He always bragged on how it ran well.

The Super Six motors did run nicely, as long as you didn't get one of the infamous porous 2 piece intakes. Those led to vacuum leaks that were almost impossible to find.

You forgot one in your recital........

In 1979 the Road Runner package required the 318 2bbl with the 360 4bbl optional.
In 1980 the Road Runner package came with both the slant and 318 (the 360 was no longer available)

it seems to be true


http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stat...ure/b_1980%20Plymouth%20Volare-10-11.jpg

This is sad, its like saying I took the fat ugly girl to prom because all there was were fat ugly girls so we made the best of it. But at the end of the night, you still had a fat ugly girl on your arm.

What, am I the only one on here that likes the 75 Road Runner?

I always thought the '75 "Star Wars" style graphics were pretty cool...

It is clear that by the time the Road Runner name was applied to the Volare, the game was over. The entire principle of "Road Runner" was a stripped down mid size car with a potent mid sized big block V8.
I never warmed up to the 71-74 B body cars. The 1975 Road Runner looked like a Chevy Monte Carlo to me. The Volare Road Runner could have been a decent car if it would have had an E58 360 4 barrel and dual exhaust.
Add 3.55 gears and a Sure Grip diff and it would have been serious competition for the Trans Ams and Camaro Z28s of the day.

I liked the 75 Road Runner, There was one big block car (400 4V) I bought and sold 4 different times. I made a fortune off of that car, at a time when money was tight. Then a 73 Challenger 360 4 v got involved with the Road Runner deal and, between the two I made even more money! That was a great coupe of years.

My experience with a 76 or 77 Volari Road Runner was I killed the rusty hulk on the local dirt track in 3 weeks. Someone going faster then I was going into turn 3 caught the front bumper and pulled the left front frame rail away from the trans crossmember. I lost the steering & brakes, and fortunately it broke the dist cap and killed the motor. I was pinballed from one car to another through the entire 3rd & 4th turns. I think everyone behind me hit me. finally the car came to a rest backed up against the front straight wall. I was looking right at the cars coming around the curve heading right towards me. That was a fun night! It was also the night I decided I was a better car owner then I was a car driver. Gene

They are OK, like a honda 50 @ the age of 50. A lot of fun till your friends see you on it.

Ya know what sucks? I had two honda 50-s as a kid, loved them.... why do I want one these days to tinker on? I have no clue, so I understand the love for these cars.

Through the 80s I never gave the F bodies and later B bodies any consideration. The classic 62-72 cars were still cheap and plentiful. As the cheap supply began drying up and things started getting expensive, I gained an appreciation for the less popular, but still traditional V8/RWD platforms of later years. Now I kind of prefer them because one will get less crap from observers about cutting up an uber rare or classic mopar. How many restored '69 Road Runners can one really enjoy looking at anyway. I'd prefer to look at something less mainstream.

I had a 76 Road Runner, orange with the spoilers/louvres, stripes, etc . . . 318, 4spd OD, fold down rear seat. Was original with 57k miles on it. Needed a bit of tlc, but got it up and running, and looking great. Have to admit, it got the looks for sure. Drove it to Mopars at the strip and they didn't even have F body category that year !!! LOL . . . not fast, but it was what every manufacturer was doing then, graphics to "wow" you. The super coupe package in 77/78 (??) with the E58 360 was as good as it got. Gotta remember what was going on at the time, and Mopar was doing what it could to try and keep the performance alive - heck, look at "The Little Red Express" - with E58 360, was faster than factory Corvette !!!

The F body is totally overlooked, kinda "orphan" machine, but even they are starting to get some respect and prices coming up. I am amazed at A body prices these days !! . . .

Still think the 75 RR is cool . . .specially getting it as Big block, swap out for 440 and some performance gearing . . . go baby go !!

Don't I recall you saying it'd knock down 25 MPG on the highway? FWIW, that's the highway rating of my '16 300

Hey, I resemble that!

FWIW my mom bought a brand new 1977 Aspen SE station wagon...came with the 2bbl "Super" slant six, and "deluxe" wire wheel covers.
On a side note, everytime she would go to work at Hudsons dept. store, some azzhole would steal her wire wheel covers! After about the third time, she had the dealer install just standard hub caps.
Also, a buddy of mine used to own a "77 Aspen R/T green on green, with the factory center console/bucket seats. His had a 318 4bbl. He did a little work, to the 318, and it was a peppy car, for what it was.

Dang those thieves. She should've put some pepper spray on those wire wheel covers Little later when Mr. Thief rubbed his eye, ohhhh the burn

22mpg @ 70mph all day long

A friends neighbor had a 1980 slant RR, red, with gold stripe accents.
Nice looking car, tan interior, wheels with trim rings, we couldn't believe it was a 6 'till we checked the VIN.
I'd take one today, kind of like the 1980 front end.

Just like any other Hot Rod. If you want it to be quicker, you have to modify it. This is a 76 Super Pak Road Runner option car I bought in 77. Ran 11.07@122 in street trim at Norwalk a few weeks ago.
Doug