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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: Grizzly] #2939686
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Originally Posted by Grizzly
At the very least, if development had continued Chrysler would have eventually wound up with a Supercar like the ME412. The thing looked like it was "Charging".

Nope. Cordobas called "Chargers", K cars called "Chargers" and 4800 pound recycled Mercedes platforms called "Chargers" is what we got instead.

No one is more guilty of milking the past than Chrysler Corp on the Charger name.



Zero chance of the ME412 hahahaha. They built the Viper which rocked for a while but fell behind in comfort and drive-ability to a market of people wanting fast cars over $100K.

The 2006 4 door Charger sold over 114,000 unites and 2007 was around 200K. 15 years later its still selling hard as GM only offers the Malibu 4dr and 2 Cadillac models. Ford has none discounting that electric weird Mustang thing. Hate the cars all you want, its excellent marketing for the current market.


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: DirectSubjection] #2939701
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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
Originally Posted by Grizzly
At the very least, if development had continued Chrysler would have eventually wound up with a Supercar like the ME412. The thing looked like it was "Charging".

Nope. Cordobas called "Chargers", K cars called "Chargers" and 4800 pound recycled Mercedes platforms called "Chargers" is what we got instead.

No one is more guilty of milking the past than Chrysler Corp on the Charger name.



Zero chance of the ME412 hahahaha. They built the Viper which rocked for a while but fell behind in comfort and drive-ability to a market of people wanting fast cars over $100K.

The 2006 4 door Charger sold over 114,000 unites and 2007 was around 200K. 15 years later its still selling hard as GM only offers the Malibu 4dr and 2 Cadillac models. Ford has none discounting that electric weird Mustang thing. Hate the cars all you want, its excellent marketing for the current market.


I would just comment that many times it's not what you did, but what you could have done.


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: 6PakBee] #2939711
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The Charger never hit the lows of the Challenger.

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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: 65pacecar] #2939749
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No one is more guilty of milking the past than Chrysler Corp on the Charger name.


They desecrated the name by putting it on those 4 door THINGS!
Here is my vote...

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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: topside] #2939764
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Originally Posted by topside
Seems to me they're missing the boat by not making an updated '68-'70.
With restomod 2nd-gen & current Challenger and Charger performance model prices being what they are.
But they'd have to do bumpers and/or covers that would probably ruin the lines.
Or they'd make it look too boxy, with mail-slot windows, like the current stuff.


This has been my thinking lately also. If they came back out with a 68' I'm sure they could probably sell over 100k in a year. Little design work and could use all the new suspension and engine stuff from today. Restomod. Same with Camaro's. Don't know what GM is doing with that crapbox but the solution is easy.


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: klunick] #2939766
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C'mon man, hows about the Charger 225 slant six! biggrin


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: John_Kunkel] #2939778
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
This is the 1999 Charger Concept car, the one they SHOULD HAVE built.



makes me think of a Corvette.


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: basketcase] #2939817
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I don't think it's "milking the past" I think it's "marketing". They are a for profit corporation not sentimentalists. And yes it has four doors but be glad it's a rear drive platform with big power available! They can't have a two door Charger and Challenger!


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: larrymopar360] #2939851
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Just read challenger outsold mustang for Q2.

Wild. I remember back in 2009/2010 the camaro and mustang were selling 100k a year and challenger was down around 35k and that is all Chrysler expected from it. Ram just outsold F150 in Q2 as well

Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: Rhinodart] #2939870
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
C'mon man, hows about the Charger 225 slant six! biggrin


iagree Guys seem to forget that not all Chargers were performance optioned. My wife and I have a 14 V6 Charger and it’s been a very good car. It got almost 28 mpg on our last trip and it’ll blow the doors off any bone stock 318 powered Charger from the performance era, probably the 383 2bbl versions too.

I'm not a huge Charger fan, didn’t care for the 66-67’s but like them better than the 71 and up.

Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2940247
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
Like a Charvette.
looks like it stolen from speed racer ??

Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: ink] #2940380
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"Charger" sounds like the perfect name for an electric car. stirthepot

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They can't have a two door Charger and Challenger!

Why not? They did back in the day. I don't get the 4 door craze! Sit and watch how many cars go buy and how many of them have more than one person in them? They should offer it in two and four door but then again a "Charger" was never a four door car. They should have called it something else and never used the "Charger" name! You don't see 4 door Mustangs and Camaros do you?

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They can't have a two door Charger and Challenger!

Why not? They did back in the day. I don't get the 4 door craze! Sit and watch how many cars go buy and how many of them have more than one person in them? They should offer it in two and four door but then again a "Charger" was never a four door car. They should have called it something else and never used the "Charger" name! You don't see 4 door Mustangs and Camaros do you?


This is a Mustang.

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Before chevy does the same thing with the camaro (making it a 4dr CUV-thing) they should really consider putting it on hiatus and bringing back the chevelle. Chevelle was a coupe, convertible, 4dr sedan, wagon, truck - nobody could complain about what they did with a new version. It could be its own brand like Ford is doing with the Bronco.

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Originally Posted by SRT6776
Before chevy does the same thing with the camaro (making it a 4dr CUV-thing) they should really consider putting it on hiatus and bringing back the chevelle. Chevelle was a coupe, convertible, 4dr sedan, wagon, truck - nobody could complain about what they did with a new version. It could be its own brand like Ford is doing with the Bronco.


They opted to revive the Impala name instead, it was a coupe, sedan, wagon, convert too.


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Originally Posted by DirectSubjection
Originally Posted by SRT6776
Before chevy does the same thing with the camaro (making it a 4dr CUV-thing) they should really consider putting it on hiatus and bringing back the chevelle. Chevelle was a coupe, convertible, 4dr sedan, wagon, truck - nobody could complain about what they did with a new version. It could be its own brand like Ford is doing with the Bronco.


They opted to revive the Impala name instead, it was a coupe, sedan, wagon, convert too.


Yeah but that was just a fwd family car. I mean as a performance replacement for the ailing camaro that's about to get the axe, bring it out as a crazy fast electric coupe with retro styling and then branch it into different models and lower performance, 4dr, CUV, even an el camino again, AWD, lifted - re-invent it. It would be fresh and chevy needs that right now, switching the already un-loved camaro to electric only isn't a route I'd take

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I had a new '85 Charger that was so bad I traded it after seven months for an Oldsmobile and didn't buy another new Dodge (truck) until '96.

I should have known something was wrong when the dye from the steering wheel came off in my hands and the radio quit working while I was driving it home from the dealer.

It was just the beginning of living with a sh!t car and even sh!ttier dealer "service"...


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Re: The worst charger was never made? [Re: bobby66] #2940811
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Originally Posted by bobby66
"Charger" sounds like the perfect name for an electric car. stirthepot
It's coming whether we like it or not. I love the name "Fury". What a cool car name. It'd take awhile to get used to Dodge in front of it but let's have another Fury.


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Originally Posted by Hrtbkr
I had a new '85 Charger that was so bad I traded it after seven months for an Oldsmobile and didn't buy another new Dodge (truck) until '96.

I should have known something was wrong when the dye from the steering wheel came off in my hands and the radio quit working while I was driving it home from the dealer.

It was just the beginning of living with a sh!t car and even sh!ttier dealer "service"...


I bought an '87 Charger 2.2 in '90. The seats were the only redeeming quality. The rest of it was a steaming pile.


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