Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
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06/24/21 08:09 AM
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I finally found one of the Chalie's pans I've been looking for after a few years. I know there's a few on here that use this pan, or one very similar.
How much oil do you run in it? I haven't filled it to see what the level looks like yet. Figured I'd ask and see where some of yall run them.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
[Re: HardcoreB]
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hardcoreB...I know it's time to upgrade. My 7 quart center sump pan has served me well, but the car is doing 120'+, 2-3 feet high wheelstands on a good pass now. I can't imagine the oil is being controlled very well w/ a center sump pan like this. Having said that, I've had the motor apart since it's been doing this (burned some pistons 2 years ago) and the bearings still look fine. Oil pressure at shutdown seems fine so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wtcA2Rv9zoThis was my best pass to date BTW. Hopefully the front will stay down and I can get after it early. This was so conservative it's ridiculous. .3 sec delay and a 1.8 sec ramp from 10%. Anything more and it's on the bumper, lol. Wish I had more time to get to the track.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
[Re: old_racer]
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06/24/21 02:34 PM
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Thanks yall!
DVW...didn't you make a sight tube for your pan to see the oil level? Any pics of that? Specific type of tubing to use that doesn't cloud up from heat?
This pan doesn't have the notch for the dipstick. It'd be easy enough to clearance it, but it sounds like the dipstick wouldn't be accurate at all anyway?
oldracer...do you use dipstick?
I want some way to check the oil...a sight tube would be fine, but I will not run w/o some way to keep track of it.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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06/24/21 02:53 PM
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I've had several of his SS pans with the kick outs on the passenger side, I fill them up on the bench with the hoses held up and run the oil level to the bottom of the windage tray, which is usually 10 quarts or maybe a little or more less. I remember the Mopar drag engineers saying there is around 3 quarts of oil held up in the motor above 5000 RPM I make my own crank scrapers and I notch the oil pan rails so I can run a stock type dip stick ![up up](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs_up.gif) I run enough oil in the pan on the motor to get the oil level below the add mark on the dip stick ![up up](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs_up.gif) I had one of his on my S/P car and bang it up enough to split one of the bottom welds so I had the steering cross over tube removed(my car has a front mounted rack and pinion steering on it) and fill in to increase the capacity a little more, 10 quarts in it don't show up on the stick now ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif)
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Re: Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
[Re: dvw]
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06/25/21 11:02 AM
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Dvw. Slightly off topic but who makes that crank scraper?
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Re: Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
[Re: Moparteacher]
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06/25/21 12:27 PM
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If the factory type dipstick doesn't reach the oil for an accurate reading then you can probably fab a longer dipstick or simply shorten the tube. I hear you, I do have several other dipsticks for rear sump oil pans and that I can do use to make sure there is oil in the pan ![up up](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs_up.gif) I remove the dipstick and use a soft plastic cap with a adjustable hose clamp to seal off the dipstick tube to make sure the vacuum pump doesn't have a potential leak from the tube ![wrench wrench](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/wrench.gif) I grind the edge of the oil pan rails to use a stock press in dipstick tube and dipstick ![scope scope](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/scope.gif)
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Re: Big Charlie's pan, capacity?
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06/26/21 12:01 PM
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I have a similar enough pan, i put 11 total in the car. 2 is for the accusmp, 1 for the remote filter and lines and 8 for the pan.
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