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SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL #2931285
06/08/21 01:59 PM
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Ordered a set of these 190 Heads for my 408 stroker back in January thru Summit, eta of delivery was bumped back 2 weeks at a time for about 6months and then all of a sudden they were delivered! That was a good day, and then unboxing the parts to inspect.....turned into major disappointment as I spotted a crack propagating from the water jacket casting....So I sent the one head back and now I wait who knows how long for the replacement to show up. Is this a sign of things to come for trick flow? A symptom of massive backlog of orders and rushing to meet deliveries? Someone in QC have an off day?? I get these things can happen, I just did not expect it to happen to premium parts from a reputable company.... shruggy


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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: Publicbottle] #2931289
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Looks more like a casting flaw than an actual crack.


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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: HotRodDave] #2931315
06/08/21 03:13 PM
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There is a casting flaw there but it's where the crack originates. It appears to me that the crack runs to the right, then up at about 90°. Good catch BTW, Hope they get you a replacement soon.

Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: justinp61] #2931423
06/08/21 08:00 PM
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I wasn’t going to post anything, but eh...... I’ll throw in my .02.....

“If it were me”, and replacement heads were a long wait away......... and I was ready to use the heads pretty soon...... I’d contact TF, send them a few pics of the casting flaw and get their take on it.

I can’t tell from the pic exactly where on the head that coolant hole is, but it may not be in a critical/problem area.

Seems like I read thru the paperwork that comes with the heads that the castings have a pretty good warranty on them.

If I felt the flaw was in a non-critical area(need more pics), and they’ll stand behind the integrity of the head.......... and I’m ready to use it now, and a replacement isn’t coming soon........ if those conditions all exist........ I’d use it.

As for “quality” parts that arrive in other than perfect condition, there’s a thread running here now about a new Callie’s RB block that arrived missing some head bolt holes....... but did have a few other holes it wasn’t supposed to.

That’s a part that’s over 2x the cost of a pair of TF heads.


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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: fast68plymouth] #2931481
06/08/21 10:28 PM
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That is unfortunate that it's gotten through their quality control, It happens from time to time. Quite frankly, depending on where it is exactly, you probably could have fitted it and never had an issue. At least you didn't have the engine together and discover a fatal flaw. A friend discovered the AFR heads he had on a customers BBC, the rocker stand pads were 0.060" different to one another. He was doing final assembly at the time.

Hopefully they get another head to you in a timely fashion.

The Trickflow stuff is pretty good generally, I've seen a few BBM and BBF heads/intakes, they've been finished nicely.


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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: fast68plymouth] #2934490
06/18/21 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
I wasn’t going to post anything, but eh...... I’ll throw in my .02.....

“If it were me”, and replacement heads were a long wait away......... and I was ready to use the heads pretty soon...... I’d contact TF, send them a few pics of the casting flaw and get their take on it.

I can’t tell from the pic exactly where on the head that coolant hole is, but it may not be in a critical/problem area.

Seems like I read thru the paperwork that comes with the heads that the castings have a pretty good warranty on them.

If I felt the flaw was in a non-critical area(need more pics), and they’ll stand behind the integrity of the head.......... and I’m ready to use it now, and a replacement isn’t coming soon........ if those conditions all exist........ I’d use it.

As for “quality” parts that arrive in other than perfect condition, there’s a thread running here now about a new Callie’s RB block that arrived missing some head bolt holes....... but did have a few other holes it wasn’t supposed to.

That’s a part that’s over 2x the cost of a pair of TF heads.


I somewhat agree with you about running them "as is" based off what TF would have to say about the location and other details. I am waiting for other parts to complete the engine anyway, so that was my primary factor in sending the head back.

I also sent back the harland sharp rockers as one of the rocker arms has tooling marks or some other marring..under the anodizing...could be nothing, but why risk it at this point ...I'm not a real big risk taker plus I have some time on my side...

Summit stated end of July for the new parts to ship out...

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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: Publicbottle] #2934505
06/18/21 11:32 AM
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Way better to be safe than sorry on the crack up
I would have used those rocker arms as is in a New York second in a heartbeat up twocents

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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: Cab_Burge] #2934586
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Way better to be safe than sorry on the crack up
I would have used those rocker arms as is in a New York second in a heartbeat up twocents


I would have used the head too.


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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: fast68plymouth] #2934607
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Way better to be safe than sorry on the crack up
I would have used those rocker arms as is in a New York second in a heartbeat up twocents


I would have used the head too.


Me too after a pressure test. J.Rob


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Re: SB Trick Flow 190 heads- FAIL [Re: RAMM] #2934747
06/19/21 01:19 AM
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You did the right thing. I wouldn't put up with that nonsense either for what they charge for this stuff. twocents


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