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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: 340727dart]
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08/29/06 12:39 AM
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Keith Richards
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LOL,I wonder if Grainger notices there is a run on these all of a sudden. Every time I play with the timing on the Challenger I have noticed how it bounces around and now I know why.  I stopped by are local Graingers today and picked up 4 of them. I plan on putting on two of them for the extra support. The piece actually looks like a nice little piece with a allen screw to tighten it up and all. If any one can't get a hold of them PM me and I will hook you up! Keith
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: Keith Richards]
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08/29/06 10:34 AM
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I just called the local Grainger store. They have 16 in stock. I'm picking up four at lunch time.
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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08/29/06 02:11 PM
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MI, USA
RumbleVid
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Prosport not to high jack your post but do small blocks have the same problem, my timing seems to bounce a little ? can this trick be done on the small blocks ? i have play in my shaft up and down, so wouldnt that cause the timing to jump all over being the drive gear could move up and down on the cam gear. i have a rollmaster timing chain and a tensonior on the 416 so it cant be jumping from there. thanks Bondobob
The SB drive is on the other side of the cam, the rotation of the cam is pushing it down already.
If the tang on the bottom of your dist. does not fit tightly in the drive slot that slop could cause your timing to move back and forth a bit. If it's quite a bit you can weld a small bead on the end of the shaft and the grind it back down untill it fits perfect or if the slop is not much I have just peened the corners of the tang with a few raps with a hammer  (carefully) and it has gotten the job done.
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: murfman]
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08/29/06 03:01 PM
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Great post! My timing is not too steady and I'm sure this is the reason why! Does anyone know if this is unique to Mopars, or should I pick up spome extra collars for my Ford and Chevy friends? 
I wouldn't think Ford and Chevy would have that problem being they have the gear attached to the end of the distributor.
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: Bigcube]
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08/30/06 09:15 AM
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cl440
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I changed my hose for a 1/2" ID clamp collar. The hose felt a little spongy, but not falling apart.  I would say check it and see how yours looks.
Same here. We got ours at our local TSC store (Tractor Supply Store). 
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: cudadon]
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08/30/06 04:32 PM
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right between milan dragway & ...
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if anyone is interested. i have a box of the clamps at work. they were mis-ordered. for the cost of a self addreded stamped envelope, i will gladly mail one(& only one!) to you. they are 1/2" I.D. & they are similar to the one pictured in duster daves earlier post, except they are aluminum, & have a single 8-32 allen head screw. they are 3/8" thick, & 1-1/8"O.D. pm me, & i will reply w/ my mailing address, so you can get the s.a.s.e. to me. only people that NEED one, please(assembled, running motor with retarding timing). it is a box of 25, so first come, first serve.
thanks-jeff
p.s. please put 2 $.39 stamps on the envelope, i'm guessing one clamp weighs between 1 & 2 oz.
'06 Magnum R/T Daily driver, 5.7 N.A.- [email]12.63@109[/email]
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: 10secGTX]
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08/30/06 05:21 PM
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When I had my motor apart this winter I discovered I chewed up a bronze gear in 32 runs. I figured out that with the distributor fully seated, if the oil pump is off the motor you can push the intermediate shaft up. The slot in the top of the intermediat shaft is deeper than the flat of the distributor engauges... in my case the gear could "ride up" over 1/8". When this happens it will mess with dist phasing in the case of the crank trigger or case the timing to jump around. It also caused the wear on the bronze gear. here's some pics... Dist seated  Oil pump off and I'm pushing the intermediate shaft up with from the bottom  Rubber hose trick told to me by Joe Weber (Dave Weber's brother)  Rubber hose and dist installed  If you have a problem with your timing jumping around, the hose or a clamp collar will fix it... the jury is still out on how long the hose will last 
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: 10secGTX]
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08/30/06 06:35 PM
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Akron, Ohio
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O.K.....I give up ...What is the Rubber Hose trick and how will it help me beat SUNROOFGTX at Norwalk .
 You kill me Fran! You don't have a chance at Norwalk, I was at Ricks the other day doing a little 'wrenching and tuning'. 
I put the 1/2" collar on my dist. last night, the piece of rubber hose was ballooned out so big it probably wasn't doing anything, very spongy too.We'll see how the collar goes Saturday, think it'll be worth a tenth?  
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: ProSport]
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08/31/06 06:04 PM
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I just gotta say one more thing about this, I fired the car up tonite to set the timing with the new collar on there and the timing is rock steady like a crank trigger setup. I've been guessing my timing for 4 years as it bounced all over the place, now I can set it quickly and accurately. Thanks for the idea guys!
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
[Re: ProSport]
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09/01/06 01:04 AM
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Keith Richards
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I just gotta say one more thing about this, I fired the car up tonite to set the timing with the new collar on there and the timing is rock steady like a crank trigger setup. I've been guessing my timing for 4 years as it bounced all over the place, now I can set it quickly and accurately. Thanks for the idea guys!
Can't wait to set mine finally on Saturday 9 Tired of all the jumpin" around also)and then go race on Monday are last Summit points race of the year.
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