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2010 5.7 valves ? #2903534
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I have a 2010 power wagon with a 5.7 and the valve tips are worn and the heights are all over the place.

I am getting the heads rebuilt soon and would like to have the valves replaced with better quality parts.

Does anyone have a recommendation on good quality replacement valves with hardened tips?

Re: 2010 5.7 valves ? [Re: mk_] #2903588
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Just out of curiosity, did you price compare edelbrock heads new to your recon'd units?

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Originally Posted by moparjim79
Just out of curiosity, did you price compare edelbrock heads new to your recon'd units?


Hi, not yet but that may be something I should check into

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I think you'll find the cost of new and improved heads o er the refurbished job you seek will surprise you, and no worrying about valve seats either.

Re: 2010 5.7 valves ? [Re: moparjim79] #2903844
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couple hundred springs $200 new factory springs usually last at least 150,000
couple hundred fer valves $200 new factory valves usually last 200,000
resurface at my local machine shop $140
valve job $200
valve seals $30

Total is under $800 and I don't worry about valve seats, the only time they fall out is if the engine gets very hot and an eddy would do the same thing and they still need checked over by a machine shop first.


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Re: 2010 5.7 valves ? [Re: HotRodDave] #2903873
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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
couple hundred springs $200 new factory springs usually last at least 150,000
couple hundred fer valves $200 new factory valves usually last 200,000
resurface at my local machine shop $140
valve job $200
valve seals $30

Total is under $800 and I don't worry about valve seats, the only time they fall out is if the engine gets very hot and an eddy would do the same thing and they still need checked over by a machine shop first.


That gives everyone a good idea about a factory direct replacement type rebuild. He did ask for better valves though. If he is not putting these on a built motor I think they would be fine right out of the box for his application.

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Originally Posted by moparjim79
Originally Posted by HotRodDave
couple hundred springs $200 new factory springs usually last at least 150,000
couple hundred fer valves $200 new factory valves usually last 200,000
resurface at my local machine shop $140
valve job $200
valve seals $30

Total is under $800 and I don't worry about valve seats, the only time they fall out is if the engine gets very hot and an eddy would do the same thing and they still need checked over by a machine shop first.


That gives everyone a good idea about a factory direct replacement type rebuild. He did ask for better valves though. If he is not putting these on a built motor I think they would be fine right out of the box for his application.


My next step up would be to find a low mile set of BGE heads then... they have better valves, better aluminum, better flow and still a lot cheaper than eddelbrocks and yes, they clear 5.7 bores. Should be able to buy a pair, inicluding shipping and machine .030 off to keep compression close for round $1100 total.


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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I don't worry about valve seats, the only time they fall out is if the engine gets very hot


I believe the valve seat dropping problem ended with the introduction of the Eagle heads in '09.


Doing my best to irritate the herd.
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by HotRodDave
I don't worry about valve seats, the only time they fall out is if the engine gets very hot


I believe the valve seat dropping problem ended with the introduction of the Eagle heads in '09.


I torn apart by now at least 100 of these, seen 1 eagle drop seats, probably a dozen pre eagle and every. single. one. of them showed blue, and scuffed cylinders, warped heads, some even have melted plaz tech intakes. They all come from vehicles that also have leaking water pumps or radiators, you would think after building water pumps and radiators for 100 years they would finger out how to make em last longer.


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Agreed on waterpumps. When buying a modern hemi powered car, they should throw a new one in with the spare tire. I have had to put 1 on every hemi powered car ive bought. Its an easy job, but it still costs money.

Re: 2010 5.7 valves ? [Re: moparjim79] #2909212
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People ought to be watching their temps also. I've not noticed a lot of early water pump failures at work and our cars are idling a lot. Particular years of bad water pumps?


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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
couple hundred springs $200 new factory springs usually last at least 150,000
couple hundred fer valves $200 new factory valves usually last 200,000
resurface at my local machine shop $140
valve job $200
valve seals $30

Total is under $800 and I don't worry about valve seats, the only time they fall out is if the engine gets very hot and an eddy would do the same thing and they still need checked over by a machine shop first.


Good info...... I am going to get my heads redone with new springs, guides, seals, and hopefully better quality valves with hardened tips if I can figure out who offers them.

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I have a 2011 ex police car that my son drives. I put a cam in it last winter and found all the valves beat up. I disassembled the rockers and found that some of the holes in the rocker bodies had worn shut. I replaced all the rocker assemblies and noticed they updated the rocker bodies to have chamfered holes just an FYI.

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Originally Posted by biff426
I have a 2011 ex police car that my son drives. I put a cam in it last winter and found all the valves beat up. I disassembled the rockers and found that some of the holes in the rocker bodies had worn shut. I replaced all the rocker assemblies and noticed they updated the rocker bodies to have chamfered holes just an FYI.


Yes I installed the new rockers and they helped some but the tips of the valves show wear.
I just bought a set of SI stainless valves with hardened tips and will get the heads done shortly.

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SSAHfan, would mind sharing the approximate cost for the SI valves?

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HotRodDave, do you have a vendor you could suggest that sells a pair of Apache heads for $1100.00? One other quick question. Since the Apache head flows more than the Eagle head, would the ports be too big for a stock displacement 5.7? Not implying they are, just something I've wondered about.

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Carpart.com, tons of them on there


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Apache head is the 6.1?


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Cylinder heads
Apache is 6.4 SRT8
BGE is identical to apache but better metal and comes on truck 6.4 (and I think on latest SRT8s)
6.1head is just called 6.1 head
5.7 03-08 is called the early 5.7 head
09-now 5.7 is called the eagle head


Engines
03-08 5.7 is early 5.7
09-now 5.7 is called eagle 5.7
6.1 is just called a 6.1
BGE is 14-now truck 6.4
SRT8 6.4 is 11-now Car suv 6.4 (Again I think the SRT8 6.4 has now switched to using BGE block and heads somewhere along the way)


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