Re: Water line easement???
[Re: HotRodDave]
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Above ground or underground ? Straight through, or can it be routed so you could subdivide your land later ? And, to clarify, they offered $30K TO you, not FROM you ? And what are they feeding, a few homes, subdivision, farm, industrial...?
You might consider a monthly or yearly fee for compensation on top of an initial fee, for several reasons. Not the least of which is to remain on the books and to address risk, usage, maintenance, and inflation.
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Re: Water line easement???
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Above ground or underground ? Straight through, or can it be routed so you could subdivide your land later ? And, to clarify, they offered $30K TO you, not FROM you ? And what are they feeding, a few homes, subdivision, farm, industrial...?
You might consider a monthly or yearly fee for compensation on top of an initial fee, for several reasons. Not the least of which is to remain on the books and to address risk, usage, maintenance, and inflation. They want me to pay $30,000 if I hook up the house I am building to flip. If they had offered me $30,000 in cash I would have probably said show me the money! That is a separate issue from anything I would get in return for them running the pipe through my land, either one or both lots. It is a mostly residential area with a couple small businesses, they have been hauling water in around me for years as the well drillers made a habit of drilling past the water seemingly to make more money as they get paid per foot, my well works great at 52 feet while all the 600-900 foot wells around me are dry. I would think the water line would be underground, it would risk freezing above ground here in the winter.
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Re: Water line easement???
[Re: HotRodDave]
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Well, they have some nerve proposing to charge you when they're hoping to run pipe through your land. Hardly an incentive ! If you can contact whoever's hauling the water and find out what they're charging, that would help your figuring. Seems to me your fee needs to cover land value, loss of use of the land their pipe & whatever will occupy, and whatever interference results from maintenance. Getting a piece of the action on top of that wouldn't be unfair, and keeps you in the info & consideration loops. I'd start with either free water, or enough for you to do your own 2nd well (probably the simpler & better option). You might want to do some research on "eminent domain", "land rights", etc on Wikipedia. Also, if you enter into a contract or agreement, if there's an attorney near you who's good with land use, rights, etc, I'd consult with him/her as a CYA.
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Re: Water line easement???
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Just no. My friend's neighbor just got $47,000 for a pipeline to go through the corner of their land. Additionally she got $1000s a tree they took down on the fenceline. This isn't a temporary deal this goes to the new owner of the house.
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Re: Water line easement???
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Unless ou are handsomely compensated, it is truly not worth the hassle in my opinion.
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Re: Water line easement???
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Unless ou are handsomely compensated, it is truly not worth the hassle in my opinion. ^^^^THAT, and how much much to have a private well drilled? The thing is this: If they're allowed to run that pipe, YOU are restricted from doing whatever you want on "your" own property. There's a bunch to be put into perspective before you sign on a dotted line. Personally, I'd talk to a GOOD real estate laywer.
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Re: Water line easement???
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I would not do this. The nerve of charging you 30gs makes me think they won't be very good if a leak happens. The lay of your land (and the adjacent parcels) will be a major factor compounding the water damage. This happened awhile back and is still ongoing: https://nbc16.com/news/local/landsl...uary-could-cost-school-636000-04-19-2021The soil here is full of clay and the slope of the bedrock is a nightmare for mitigating structural damage, cause once it starts, no telling how it will stop. btw Don't even think of getting help from property insurance. That is classified as "movement of the earth" and is not covered by any policy I'm aware of.
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Re: Water line easement???
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As Nancy Reagan once said, "Just say NO!"
We have an easement on the farm and it is a huge mess. The utility is to contact us up to 2 weeks prior to having crews do maintenance /inspections. They never do and they always drive out of the easement area. They hauled ass through my deer food plot and tore that entire area up.
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Re: Water line easement???
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Easements have a way of coming back to haunt you. Prior owners had given a power company a "lease" (very unusual, and not well described in the paperwork) about 100 years ago to run transmission poles across the property. Those poles were removed in the 1950's. The "lease" made the property unsaleable (no one wanted a hassle with the power company). Fortunately, the power company agreed to comply with the law in exchange for $5,000 for "documentation costs". The law was unquestionably on my side. Could have been much worse, so I was glad to pay it.
Will the water line benefit you in any way?
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Re: Water line easement???
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There ya go. As Nancy Reagan once said, "Just say NO!" NO NO NO AND A BIG NO. As Nancy Reagan once said, "Just say NO!"
We have an easement on the farm and it is a huge mess. The utility is to contact us up to 2 weeks prior to having crews do maintenance /inspections. They never do and they always drive out of the easement area. They hauled ass through my deer food plot and tore that entire area up.
STOP POTATO HATE!
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Re: Water line easement???
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As Nancy Reagan once said, "Just say NO!"
We have an easement on the farm and it is a huge mess. The utility is to contact us up to 2 weeks prior to having crews do maintenance /inspections. They never do and they always drive out of the easement area. They hauled ass through my deer food plot and tore that entire area up.
Sounds like the agreement was poorly written or poorly enforced. around here that would be a fineable offense with restitution included. When I worked the oil patch all that was spelled out in the agreement. Might be smart to get a lawyer to at least review the agreement before signing on.
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Re: Water line easement???
[Re: Faust]
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Easements have a way of coming back to haunt you. Prior owners had given a power company a "lease" (very unusual, and not well described in the paperwork) about 100 years ago to run transmission poles across the property. Those poles were removed in the 1950's. The "lease" made the property unsaleable (no one wanted a hassle with the power company). Fortunately, the power company agreed to comply with the law in exchange for $5,000 for "documentation costs". The law was unquestionably on my side. Could have been much worse, so I was glad to pay it.
Will the water line benefit you in any way? Only way I see it benefiting me directly is if my well ever dries up and I am forced to start buying water from him. Also indirectly it is a little more complicated than just saying "NO", I have several close friends who will be tapping into it, don't want to cost my friends a bunch of money or stop their water project all together.
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Re: Water line easement???
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It sounds like you want to go ahead with it in some form so like I said in another reply get a lawyer involved to make sure you're not screwing yourself.
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Re: Water line easement???
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It sounds like you want to go ahead with it in some form so like I said in another reply get a lawyer involved to make sure you're not screwing yourself. Exactly. Let them hand you their proposed agreement, and have your lawyer "fix it." Believe me, their legal counsel doesn't have your best interest in mind. As a part of that, get your stub outs installed so you can easily tap in at a later date, if you wish to.
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