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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: cl440] #29341 09/04/06 02:38 AM 09/04/06 02:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,887 USA CrAlt master
CrAlt master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,887 USA	Quote: Quote: I changed my hose for a 1/2" ID clamp collar. The hose felt a little spongy, but not falling apart. I would say check it and see how yours looks. Same here. We got ours at our local TSC store (Tractor Supply Store). You wouldnt happen to still have the TSC P/N or SKU would ya? The nearest TSC is about an hour away and would just like to call them first to see if they have it. Thanks. I was asked to contribute money to help solve the civil unrest in Egypt, but I suspect it's some sort of pyramid scheme.

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: CrAlt] #29342 09/04/06 08:17 PM 09/04/06 08:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 903 Saskatchewan, Canada cudabin super stock
cudabin super stock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 903 Saskatchewan, Canada	Wow !! I just put a 1/2 collar clamp on and the timing is now Rock steady !!! I tightned the 2 allen screws up pretty good, so do i need to re-do it and use loctite ??? Thanks for the tip! Arnie 67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...) 70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.

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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: ProSport] #29344 09/05/06 02:43 PM 09/05/06 02:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 12,129 Cleveland sunroofgtx I Live Here
sunroofgtx I Live Here Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 12,129 Cleveland	Quote: Quote: O.K.....I give up ...What is the Rubber Hose trick and how will it help me beat SUNROOFGTX at Norwalk . You kill me Fran! You don't have a chance at Norwalk, I was at Ricks the other day doing a little 'wrenching and tuning'. Bob, it worked like a charm. Unreal.. Now, about that bodyflex !!! I really going to have to feather it off the line unless I want that twist... Join the quickest team in motorsports. Team FireCore. CustomWiresets.com

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: 340727dart] #29345 09/05/06 03:31 PM 09/05/06 03:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,867 Upstate, NY MikeP master
MikeP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,867 Upstate, NY	Quote: The SB drive is on the other side of the cam, the rotation of the cam is pushing it down already. If the tang on the bottom of your dist. does not fit tightly in the drive slot that slop could cause your timing to move back and forth a bit. If it's quite a bit you can weld a small bead on the end of the shaft and the grind it back down untill it fits perfect or if the slop is not much I have just peened the corners of the tang with a few raps with a hammer (carefully) and it has gotten the job done. Quote: I put the collar on my 340's distributor this evening and just got back from driving it. The engine idles smoother now, which kind of surprised me. I didn't know what to expect by putting it on. But, it seems like the $2.69 I spent for the collar was money well spent. If this is true on LA's, then is it the weight of the collar(I have three different ones weighing 31-42gms) giving additional inertia to the shaft and giving the tang positive placement in the slot? "Think Pink" 67'Dart GT vert, 69' Newport vert, 67' Barracuda and a pile of trucks 78'79'91'92 CTD

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: MikeP] #29346 09/05/06 03:36 PM 09/05/06 03:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,144 Arkansas 340727dart master
340727dart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,144 Arkansas	Quote: Quote: The SB drive is on the other side of the cam, the rotation of the cam is pushing it down already. If the tang on the bottom of your dist. does not fit tightly in the drive slot that slop could cause your timing to move back and forth a bit. If it's quite a bit you can weld a small bead on the end of the shaft and the grind it back down untill it fits perfect or if the slop is not much I have just peened the corners of the tang with a few raps with a hammer (carefully) and it has gotten the job done. Quote: I put the collar on my 340's distributor this evening and just got back from driving it. The engine idles smoother now, which kind of surprised me. I didn't know what to expect by putting it on. But, it seems like the $2.69 I spent for the collar was money well spent. If this is true on LA's, then is it the weight of the collar(I have three different ones weighing 31-42gms) giving additional inertia to the shaft and giving the tang positive placement in the slot? Don't start me to lying. I was not expecting any noticeable results like I felt with my engine. The drive tang already fit pretty tight in the slot on the top of the intermediate shaft. Even though my distributor is still fairly new, there was a little bit (approx 0.015") up and down movement on the distributor shaft. I have to figure the collar took up that slack. Your life is not my fault. My life is none of your business. Speech is free only if you agree with those in control.

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: 340727dart] #29347 09/05/06 03:52 PM 09/05/06 03:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,867 Upstate, NY MikeP master
MikeP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,867 Upstate, NY	Quote: Don't start me to lying. I was not expecting any noticeable results like I felt with my engine. No, not at all......Just curious as to why and if there are more positive results on small blocks... "Think Pink" 67'Dart GT vert, 69' Newport vert, 67' Barracuda and a pile of trucks 78'79'91'92 CTD

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: MikeP] #29348 09/05/06 04:27 PM 09/05/06 04:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,144 Arkansas 340727dart master
340727dart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,144 Arkansas	Quote: Quote: Don't start me to lying. I was not expecting any noticeable results like I felt with my engine. No, not at all......Just curious as to why and if there are more positive results on small blocks... Just to clarify, I wasn't being defensive. Honestly, I had no idea the collar-on-the-shaft trick would work for me, especially after I read that the SB shaft actually is forced down during normal engine rotation. I have to think the collar helps eliminate the slack in the distributor. Your life is not my fault. My life is none of your business. Speech is free only if you agree with those in control.

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor #29349 09/05/06 04:45 PM 09/05/06 04:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	I'm glad everyone's having positive results, my gear must have been moving up and down pretty good cuz setting timing is a breeze now. I did loctite mine before tightening the screws real good, just some added insurance. No problem Sunroof, I'll bring my wheelie bars over for you. Sure hope Fran's not reading all this. I don't think the weight of the collar will matter, although I'd run the lightest one for rotating mass. 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: ProSport] #29350 09/05/06 09:47 PM 09/05/06 09:47 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	i talked to a friend this past weekend that told me he has run one on all his small blocks for years now, he got his from hambuger years ago. im installing mine this week to test on friday at norwalk Great post ProSport thanks for all the info from everyone. Bondobob

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor #29351 09/05/06 09:49 PM 09/05/06 09:49 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY	are you guys instaling one or two clamp collars ? 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: Ari440] #29352 09/05/06 09:56 PM 09/05/06 09:56 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I got one like Duster Dave got. Mc Master (562) 463-4277 #9947K16 extra wide 1pc. clamp on collar 1/2 bore-1 1/8 OD. - 7/8 wide double set screw lock cost $8.31 i picked it up at my local tool dealer that handles Mcmaster-Carr products. Bondobob

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor #29353 09/06/06 02:20 PM 09/06/06 02:20 PM
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Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	I just picked up two clamps from Granger , they were like 2.60 apiece. After seeing All of the positive results I felt I needed them. As my Timing is all over the place above 3500 RPM. Thanks for the post Prosport., mike 73 Sport 440, 509 cam w/Eddys 3.91 and 28.1"/27.3 tire. Et. 60 ft. 1.435, 1/8th. 6.61 @ 101.80 mph. 1/4. 10.472 / 127.78 mph. 2950# race/with me,and pump gas.

Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor [Re: Sport440] #29354 09/06/06 02:46 PM 09/06/06 02:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 826 Georgia 66coronet super stock
66coronet super stock Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 826 Georgia	has anyone noticed an ET or MPH gain from this? i realize the timing will steady up but I am interseted to see if there are any other gains.

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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor #29356 09/06/06 03:52 PM 09/06/06 03:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	I doubt I'll run any quicker with this trick, it's just a whole lot easier to set timing. We'll find out Saturday if it doesn't rain. 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

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