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The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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08/26/06 03:58 PM
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I did the rubber hose trick 2 months ago on the distributor to make it easier to set timing per BigCube and a couple others here. I'm starting to worry about the piece of rubber hose deteriorating in the motor. How long will it last before needing replaced? I was gonna check it tonite but it requires removing plug wires, 4 port regulator hoses, fan wires etc. I'm lazy. 
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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08/26/06 04:22 PM
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I changed my hose for a 1/2" ID clamp collar. The hose felt a little spongy, but not falling apart.  I would say check it and see how yours looks.
Jim
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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where could one find a 1/2 id clamp collar at?
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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I thought you were a Mechanical Engineering student...
The clamp is positioned so there is near zero clearance between the bottom of the clamp and the top of the intermediate shaft gear. When the gear tries to ride up, it is stopped by the clamp.
Ah, that makes sense... I figured the slop was in the distributor shaft and not the oil pump drive, I could see the drive shaft trying to climb the gears like you say though..
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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You can also get the 1/2" clamp at Graingers for $2.64 part # 1L660 To install it, put the clamp on the dist shaft, way down by the bottom. Tighten the clamp enuff that it won't fall off, but will still slide on the shaft. Install the dist and tighten it down. The installation will position the clamp for zero endplay on the dist shaft and intermediate shaft. Then remove the dist, tighten the clamp on the shaft so it won't slide, re-install the dist, and you are good to go. 
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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you should try taking the dist to a weld shop and put a weld down the end of the shaft and grind it to fit the gap.a weld shop would do it for free i bet being a small job he could tie in with another.
Why waste the time doing this ?...IF you do it this way and then at some point need to change the distributor or intermediate shaft you have to do it all over again.....with the collars....simply loosen the screws and place it on the new unit...simple..and easy.
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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08/27/06 05:53 AM
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To install it, put the clamp on the dist shaft, way down by the bottom. Tighten the clamp enuff that it won't fall off, but will still slide on the shaft. Install the dist and tighten it down. The installation will position the clamp for zero endplay on the dist shaft and intermediate shaft. Then remove the dist, tighten the clamp on the shaft so it won't slide, re-install the dist, and you are good to go.
That's exactly how I did it! Great HEMI minds think alike. 
ps: I used a drop of Loctite on the screws.
Dave, your hemi eyes must of missed that "trick" componet listed in the Hamburger 340/360 Catalog circa 1979, eh? 
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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you should try taking the dist to a weld shop and put a weld down the end of the shaft and grind it to fit the gap.a weld shop would do it for free i bet being a small job he could tie in with another.
Why waste the time doing this ?...IF you do it this way and then at some point need to change the distributor or intermediate shaft you have to do it all over again.....with the collars....simply loosen the screws and place it on the new unit...simple..and easy.
i would not think the parts would very that much to need adjusted every time you put a shaft or dist in.i dont ware my stuff out often enough to think about that i guess.the hose deal pushes my buttons for things not to do.sorry!
i see the cost of the granger part is cheep enough to get that why bother.you would spend that much in gas getting it there.
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Re: The rubber hose trick on the distributor
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08/27/06 09:45 AM
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Thanks for the awesome info as usual guys, time for a trip to Grainger this week!
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LOL>>>>>>.runs for cover 
not really seeing how the clamp is supposed to work... The hose works because it applies pressure and friction against the intermediate shaft to take up the slop. How is one supposed to do that with a collar? 
